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American-Coins-1862-1871-1877-1881-1885-1996-|-Replicas
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Can anyone identify if these are fakes? Or are they real? I'm a newbie.

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Those look like world coins to me.
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 Posted 11/19/2011  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Milanoey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, wat are world coins?
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 Posted 11/19/2011  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The one on the bottom right is a Morgan dollar. Thats the only American coin you have.
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Sorry posted the same picture twice, so updated it.

Okay thank you for the Morgan dollar.
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The bottom tray has the only US coins it. Top from left to right- Trade dollar,seated liberty dollar, and then ?not US
Bottom row from left-Seated Liberty Dollar, Trade dollar.
Many fakes/reproductions have been made of these coins, especially the Trade dollars. We're going to need some better pics to determine if they are real or not. Hope this helps.
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When I first looked at it, the bottom US coins were not there.
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The only american coins I see are the morgan in the bottom right of the top picture and everything except the top right of the second picture. From what I tell, I think it is most likely the american coins are fake. It looks like there is a 1881 and a 1885 Trade dollar, both of which were only made as proofs. Those coins are for certain not proofs. The a real 1885 Trade dollar is a major rarity. The chinese coins look like they may be fake as well because I have seen those designs on cheap modern counterfeits. Sorry to bring the bad news.
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Numbering from left to right, top to bottom:

#1: Spain 5 pesetas
#2: appears to be a replica of a Chinese "Hong Xian dragon dollar", though fantasies like #9 often have this dragon design on the other side.
#3: Spanish coin countermarked for use in the Philippines.
#4: Swiss "shooting thaler", Schnaffhausen 1865.
#5: Same as #1. It appears to be rusty.
#6: USA "Morgan" dollar.

#7: USA " Trade dollar".
#8: USA "seated" dollar.
#9: Chinese fantasy piece from the "twelve Qing Emperors" set.
#10: USA "seated" dollar.
#11: USA " Trade dollar".
#12: USA " Trade dollar".

If they all came from the same place, then yes, they are all likely to be fake. Apart from the Swiss shooting thaler, they're all commonly encountered as Chinese-made fakes in the street markets.

A quick test for authenticity: if they stick to a magnet, they're steel fakes, not genuine silver coins.
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