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ATB 5 Oz. Coin Capsules

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 Posted 11/22/2011  6:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Granite to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I recently purchased an air-tite capsule for one of the ATB 5 oz. silver coins from JP's Corner. I received it today and noticed that the coin does not fit all the way into the container. There is a narrow rim on the inside of the capsule that holds the face of the coin about a quarter inch away from the inside. However, when I place the cover on the coin, the cover piece seems to go almost right up to the other side of the coin. This gives the coin the appearance of being extremely loose in the holder, even though it is snug and hardly moves at all.

Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a preferred side of the coin to place in the container? I currently have the obverse side of the coin at the quarter inch from the capsule with the reverse side being right up against the cover piece.
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 Posted 11/23/2011  02:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I asked Air-Tite about the gap in the Z5 holder a couple of months ago, they stated the holder was not made for the 3" bullion coin, but was the correct diameter for it. There is not a correct way to orient the reverse. Putting it face down on the base will bring the reverse right up to the cover, but the weight of the coin pulls it apart and will eventually loosen the airtight seal between the two pieces. Because the holder is of the improper thickness, coins can fall in the gap and rattle.

I also found out that Air-Tite is making a properly sized mold for the ATB coins, and will be selling them in the first quarter of 2012. As someone that has two full sets of '10 & '11 bullion and all of the uncirculated released to date, the unsuitability of the Z5 for these coins is pretty evident.
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 Posted 11/23/2011  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Granite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bizy. I actually purchased 10 of the Z5 holders (for my eventual 2010-2011 5 oz coin purchases). I just received them yesterday and have all of the packaging and receipts. In light of what you have stated, do you think it would be best to try to return them and just wait for next Spring when the better holders become available on the market?
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 Posted 11/23/2011  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Granite, if they were $1.75 each I'd keep the ones you already have coins for, but no holder. Some protection is better than none, IMO. Most of the bullion dealers such as APMEX, Provident Metals, etc., will sell you a bullion ATB and ship it in a free Z5 Air-Tite, but not all. The large size of the coin makes it really easy to mar and mishandle. I bought 10 to store the 1 set of 2010s that came from Jack Hunt in bubble mailers, plus a couple of extras in case the 2012s start rolling out, and the new style holder is not yet available.

Edit-For storage options, in case you are interested, I am using the PB7 paper box with the #715 storage card. The box is 7x14", 3/4"H, the card is velour on one side, black paper on the other and holds 5-Z5/Z10 holders. The card comes in standard black, burgundy, dark blue, green, and red. The cost is $7.50 per box/card combo, and can be directly ordered from http://www.airtiteholders.com. It's a good temporary storage measure, and corrals the loose Z5s from rolling around in a box or coming into contact with each other. Eventually, I will have a cabinet made with slide out drawers for both the bullion and uncirculated sets.
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11/23/2011 2:54 pm
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 Posted 11/23/2011  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Granite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again Bizy. I guess I will just hold on to my extra holders. I will probably find a use for them eventually.

I really loved the look of the new NP quarters so I got really excited when I started looking in to the 5 oz bullion versions. I picked up a few and then the storage situation started to hit me. What a lot of room it is going to take if I keep collecting them and end up with 50+ coins laying around. I don't have anything set up currently, but I will keep your suggestions in mind when I start to get more serious as to how to store and display these coins.
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 Posted 11/24/2011  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure thing, Granite. I'll let you know on this thread if & when the new Air-Tite capsules are out. While everyone is chasing every iteration of the Silver Eagles, the ATB bullion and uncirculated coins are overlooked and under appreciated. My collecting strategies are to work on a classic set and an ongoing modern set from the beginning. I was looking around for a substitute modern set when the 1/4 oz. Platinum proofs ended with an untimely demise in 2008. The ATB fit the niche nicely, and have some really nice designs. This series has the potential to be a sleeper hit down the road, and the time to start collecting them is now, when most collectors and investors are looking elsewhere. When even the US Mint looks as these as a red headed orphan stepchild of theirs, even more reason to buy!
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