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 Posted 12/03/2013  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add estedman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I picked up a Rushmore yesterday from APMEX fro $118.00 shipped. I thought that was a great price.
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NQ5 2013 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - WH MTN 20,534
NQ6 2013 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - PY VTY 17,719
NQ7 2013 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - GT BSN 17,809
NQ8 2013 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - MCHNRY 19,634
NQ9 2013 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - MT RSM 21,135
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It's official, the Mint has sold out of the 2013P Ft. McHenry 5oz puck.

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 Posted 12/04/2013  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It's official, the Mint has sold out of the 2013P Ft. McHenry 5oz puck.


As did the Rushmore bullion coin at 35,000
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12/04/2013 11:40 am
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NQ5 2013 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - WH MTN 20,534
NQ6 2013 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - PY VTY 17,719
NQ7 2013 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - GT BSN 17,809
NQ8 2013 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - MCHNRY 19,634
NQ9 2013 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ - MT RSM 21,135


Sorry, are those numbers for the "P" pucks sold directly from the mint or for the bullion versions?
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 Posted 12/04/2013  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that those are the numbers for the UNC sold by the mint, not the Bullion versions sold by AP's

The Mint really has no way to keep track of "sales" of bullion coins, only how many are shipped to the AP's.
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Sorry, are those numbers for the "P" pucks sold directly from the mint or for the bullion versions?


Those are the sales numbers for the P pucks...the NQ5 (etc.) before the total is the giveaway...

Numbers for the bullion version as of 11/22:


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2013


White Mountain National Forest
35,000

Perry's Victory and International Peace Memorial
27,100

Great Basin National Park
28,600

Fort McHenry National Monument and Historic Shrine
30,000

Mount Rushmore National Memorial
35,000


The bullion numbers mean those are the total released to the dealers...
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12/04/2013 10:53 am
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barry - those are the numbers as of Monday for the "P" coin.

denco7 - the sales to the AP are the sold number of bullion coins. There is no distinction that needs drawn between shipped and sold. The AP's can't return them.
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denco7 - the sales to the AP are the sold number of bullion coins. There is no distinction that needs drawn between shipped and sold. The AP's can't return them.


So you are saying that they are all sold out and collectors have no chance of getting them, except at a premium off of $bay ?

Of course my point was that I, along with many others, do not consider a bullion coin " sold out " just because they are all in the hands of the AP's.

When the mint sells out of proof, UNC, coins, everyone down the line raises their prices, when the mint delivers all their bullion coins to their AP's the price generally stays the same.

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So you are saying that they are all sold out and collectors have no chance of getting them, except at a premium off of $bay ?


Nope, you can get them from the same place as before they were "sold out"...at the dealers (Provident, APMEX etc)..spot plus premium (talking about the bullion coins NOT the P's)

All of the 2013 issues are available at the same price.."sold out" or not....
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12/04/2013 11:19 am
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I think the distinction here is that the mint is no longer producing these and what they have produced has been sold. (that is sold out at the mint - regardless of who bought them and is still selling them)

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That being said , I think that labeling these as " sold out " gives the wrong impression/message to the novice collector or uninitiated. And would cause them to overpay for fear that these were now unattainable.

Perhaps " no longer in production " would be a better way of referring to these bullion issues, than sold out.
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denco - I agree with that. It is kind of a grey area with these bullion releases.
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Yes and by the P version being sold out puts more of a draw on the bullion for those that didn't buy the P version while available

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