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ATB Five Ounce Silver Coins

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Every other year is a low production followed by high. Seems like they're sticking with the formula. Watch teddy have a 500k combined mintage


bullion mintage hasn't been over 45k since 2011
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Well, with regards to Teddy ATB pucks, look to the same 120,000/30,000 split.

Spoke with the Mint again and they confirmed all 2016 ATB 5-ounces will have the same 120,000 bullion and 30,000 uncirculated mintages.
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I read that somewhere fox. Haven't actually done the hard numbers and it hasn't been anything like 2011 but the article said every other year was a lower mintage relative to the year before it and vice versa. When I get a second I'll check the mintages. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong
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Current state of affairs:
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I'll update it periodically and once the US Mint confirms sell-outs.

There were three occasions with lower bullion than numismatic mintage.
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I would not be so quick to relinquish those tubes yet, Fox. Just wait and see if the remaining Shawnee is minted. I really doubt they have nearly 800 monster boxes ready to go in inventory. I guess they are finally reckoning these coins by design instead of just merely bullion. Personally I think they will sell about 60K and then the rest of the numbers will languish as no AP wants to tie up liquidity on something that doesn't sell. The humongous miscalculation by the APs in May 2011 meant when they bought out Gettysburg and Glacier in under two weeks they paid something like $240 a coin. And have been selling them in drips and drabs for less than half since then. Last year was the first year in the series that each of the designs sold out before the next one came out.

Edit--on the other hand, 30K burnished pucks means I can cancel my subscription if the costs stays at the $149.95 level. There will be no hurry to get this year's pucks since we've gone back to the levels of 2011 and 2013.
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oops..duplicate post
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Just my thoughts but:

They WILL sell the full 120k bullion pucks before moving on to the next issue

They WILL NOT sell anywhere near 30k P pucks for obvious reasons...(history, price)

..and burnished pucks in 2011 were in the 17-24k range...decent totals and similar (or lower) than present day
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Thanks Atlas642 for the great info.
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There will be plenty of P pucks to go around this year. I guess I don't need to be ready at the trigger at noon for the Teddy P puck.
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I guess a lot will depend on the price of silver as well.
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I guess I don't need to be ready at the trigger at noon for the Teddy P puck.

I was thinking the same thing.


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I guess a lot will depend on the price of silver as well.

For bullion, yeah. For P-Pucks, silver price won't matter as the price is still $150 for these guys. It won't matter, that is, as long as it stays below $20. Otherwise it's just the higher mintage that will likely drive sales down, IMO.
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They could lower the cost of the P version. Although only $5 the Mint lowered the price. Spot has since lowered and I am keeping my fingers crossed for a lower cost
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@SA4H

You're welcome. Glad to be of service!
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Here's an article on the increased mintages of the ATB puck

http://www.numismaticnews.net/artic...n-production
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Down to 30 Kisatchie now...
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