ATB Five Ounce Silver Coins

Maybe the price increase is an excuse to stop the series who knows. But to raise the price to almost $100 over spot is really a high premium. One I won't be paying. Back when the 5oz was 204 and spot in the 30s not too bad a deal but not when lurking 30 and a raise in price not only to 229 but 244. I don't need them that bad. Hopefully I can get the 3 2012 I didn't get yet, but I won't pay 244 unless spot is much higher.

I agree. Almost a 100 dollar premium is quite stiff if nothing changes between now and then. I cant imagine that the demand will be very high. If they changed the mintage to 1 or 2k that could work, that may even be where some of them end up if thats the new premium they want

Who knows they may be trying to drive the mintage down for ammunition to get the P version or the whole puck series killed.

Do we know if that was a mint decision or if dealers just didnt have much demand for those? In the past the bullion hadnt really had any problems selling but with declining prices in silver I wonder if distributors were worried about getting burned on those.

What will the mintage be for these pucks this year? Has anyone heard of a limit being set?

Here are the latest numbers on the entire series of pucks released to date and current as of Monday, January 7th. Something for you to ruminate over:

Bullion coins sold:
Hot Springs 33,000 of 33,000
Yellowstone 33,000 of 33,000
Yosemite 33,000 of 33,000
Grand Canyon 33,000 of 33,000
Mount Hood 33,000 of 33,000
Gettysburg 126,700 of 126,700
Glacier 126,700 of 126,700
Olympic 91,400 of ?
Vicksburg 41,000 of ?
Chickasaw 31,200 of ?
El Yunque 21,900 of 24,000
Chaco Culture 20,000 of 24,400
Acadia 25,400 of 25,400
Hawai'i Volcanoes 20,000 of 20,000
Denali 20,000 of 20,000

P-uncirculated sold as of 1-07-13.
Hot Springs 27,000 of 27,000
Yellowstone 27,000 of 27,000
Yosemite 27,000 of 27,000
Grand Canyon 26,019 of 26,019
Mount Hood 26,928 of 26,928
Gettysburg 24,625 of 24,625
Glacier 20,856 of 20,856?
Olympic 18,398 of 18,398?
Vicksburg 18,594 of 18,594?
Chickasaw 16,827 of 16,827?
El Yunque 15,630 of 25,000?
Chaco Culture 13,086 of 25,000?
Acadia 13,786 of 25,000?
Hawai'i Volcanoes 14,594 of 25,000?
Denali 11,293 of 25,000?

Some educated guesses for 2013 would be 20,000 bullion of each design and maybe 15,000 uncirculated of the same. There is a 8-9K collecting base for this series, and probably a couple of thousand above that who would buy a puck here and there as certain parks/sites come out or just for the design. Will be interesting if the Mint minted the full 25,000 limit for the 2012 pucks, I'm guessing 20K for El Yunque and Volcanoes, 15K for other three. 2012 items are selling out fast and these expensive to produce and store inventory items should be no different. Happy new year, ATB'ers!

Thanks for that summary Bizybackson. I've been looking for an updated report on mintage of this series. I wonder if prices on the 2010 P's will start to fall as the mintage numbers drop for '11 and '12?

Very surprised, but also think it's good for the hobby. I guess this and other craziness is due to financial problems at the mint.