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I recently completed my Sacagawea Set, complete with proofs.

However, it isn't really complete, is it?

I know about the special finish coins given to the lady who designed the coin.

However, in addition to that, a friend recently told me that a very small number of Sacagawea dollars were struck in gold at the West Point Mint. Those coins, he says, are being held by the United States Mint.

The friend is pretty knowledable, so I assume he is correct.

I would like to know if gold Sacagaweas exist, is the Mint in possession of them, and what is likely to happen to them?

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Hi Gary,

I would guess that DCarr would be the person to pose that question to, since some of his expertise falls in that area.

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Good idea Berry.

If he doesn't see this thread, I'll send him an e-mail.
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Gary, now to complete your set how are you going to get the mint to let you have one of those gold ones. Yes I heard the mint did make gold ones.

ALSO you need the Cheerios dollar for complete set.
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Of course I was just joking about the gold coin. The Mint wouldn't give one up, and I couldn't afford it if they did.

Thanks for reminding me about the Cheerios Dollar. I had forgotten about that one.

Guess I'll just have to be happy with the set I have.

I would still be interested to learn about those gold dollars however.
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I thought I read somewhere that they put the Gold ones in space ?

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Those coins, he says, are being held by the United States Mint.


They also went for a ride on the space shuttle.
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I believe the mint produced either 12 or 24 of them. They were struck in 24K gold. They all went for a ride in space in either late 1999 or 2000. I think the mint struck them for the millennium celebration. But these are impossible to obtain since the Mint owns them and will never give them up.
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the information that has been given is correct. The only thing that I heard that was different was that they were mistakenly minted from gold eagle planchets but that may be a myth that someone threw out there but wanted to at least share another theory out there to you
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Daniel Carr might know something about it, but the best general source is going to be Mike Wallace, on his Small Dollars website (who happens to have a nice page on Carr's contributions as well.)
Read about the 22 karat Sackie at the link below:
http://home.earthlink.net/~smalldol.../page28.html
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If I remember correctly there were actually over 30 struck and a dozen were flown on a space shuttle mission and the rest melted down. The news release concerning the gold dollars on board the shuttle set Congressinal heads spinning as the Mint stepped overboard without their approval to strike gold Sacagawea dollars. Needless to say the program was immediately halted and the coins were moved to a U.S. vault (West Point I believe) after a few showings. One may have gone to the Smithsonian but the rest have been confiscated, so to speak, by the United States government and are NOT property of the U.S. Mint. There must have been a ton of behind the scenes finger slapping on this one!!!
The Goodacre Sacks, with the special burnish in my opinion are nothing more than hype and I would not pay the price for a coin that WAS NOT RELEASED into circulation. My current collecting policy, regarding my collecting habits, is "if it is not made available to the general public in one form or another it is NOT an official U.S. released coin" and our collecting albums should dictate what is offically released and what is not. I have ALL the Sacagawea dollars that have been made available to the general public so I have a COMPLETE set! While the Cheerios dollar would be great it is not a member of this set as it was a limited release arranged through a private company to hype the new dollars and the government didn't announce until much later, and then only after they were backed into a corner, that the dies were changed for business strike coins AFTER the Cheerio's dollars were struck for that limited program. The sad part is the mere fact most of the Cheerios dollars were spent in one way or another so no one knows where most of them are today! Rotting in a bank vault somewhere?
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Originally posted by crystalk64

If I remember correctly there were actually over 30 struck and a dozen were flown on a space shuttle mission and the rest melted down. The news release concerning the gold dollars on board the shuttle set Congressinal heads spinning as the Mint stepped overboard without their approval to strike gold Sacagawea dollars. Needless to say the program was immediately halted and the coins were moved to a U.S. vault (West Point I believe) after a few showings. One may have gone to the Smithsonian but the rest have been confiscated, so to speak, by the United States government and are NOT property of the U.S. Mint. There must have been a ton of behind the scenes finger slapping on this one!!!
The Goodacre Sacks, with the special burnish in my opinion are nothing more than hype and I would not pay the price for a coin that WAS NOT RELEASED into circulation. My current collecting policy, regarding my collecting habits, is "if it is not made available to the general public in one form or another it is NOT an official U.S. released coin" and our collecting albums should dictate what is offically released and what is not. I have ALL the Sacagawea dollars that have been made available to the general public so I have a COMPLETE set! While the Cheerios dollar would be great it is not a member of this set as it was a limited release arranged through a private company to hype the new dollars and the government didn't announce until much later, and then only after they were backed into a corner, that the dies were changed for business strike coins AFTER the Cheerio's dollars were struck for that limited program. The sad part is the mere fact most of the Cheerios dollars were spent in one way or another so no one knows where most of them are today! Rotting in a bank vault somewhere?


You have got right the government will hide what ever they can I know one the fat cat senator have 1 of 30 coins mint and when he passes his family we sell it for ton of cash
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quote:
Originally posted by Errorcoins

Gary, now to complete your set how are you going to get the mint to let you have one of those gold ones. Yes I heard the mint did make gold ones.

ALSO you need the Cheerios dollar for complete set.



I read some discuusion before. Either the Cheerios or Goldacre is not essential to complete the set. Is it true now?
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quote:
Originally posted by monster

quote:
Originally posted by Errorcoins

Gary, now to complete your set how are you going to get the mint to let you have one of those gold ones. Yes I heard the mint did make gold ones.

ALSO you need the Cheerios dollar for complete set.



I read some discuusion before. Either the Cheerios or Goldacre is not essential to complete the set. Is it true now?



They are considered Varieties just like 1955 DD cents or 1942 over 41 Merc dimes.

I hear the Gold sackies are stored at Fort Knox.
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Thanks to all of you for your help.

Everyone's information was helpful, and the link edix provided was especially helpful.

My question has been answered in full. The next question is whether or not those gold coins will ever be placed in a museum for people to see. They are beautiful, and sitting on a shelf at Ft. Knox doesn't seem the way to go.
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The gold coins are now in the Smithsonian. Forever I guess.
Don't forget the Cheerios coins!
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