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Doucet Pillar of the Community United States 1315 Posts	Posted 12/13/2011 12:01 am When I got this coin the seller had it listed as: Nero, 54-68. Æs, year 108 of the Caesar's era (= 59/60), Antioch (Syria) Tyche r. with veil and coping / / altar. RPC 4292nd 20mm 6gr In researching it I don't think this is year 108 (ET HP). This coin reads ETEKP (year 125) in exergue. Do you think I am correct about this and can anyone tell me whose reign this would be? Also, are these coins considered Roman coins? Thanks Report this Post to the Staff

dougsmit Pillar of the Community United States 1549 Posts	Posted 12/13/2011 07:03 am I am away from home right now and can not confirm the ID but 108=60 AD so 125 is 108+17 and that is 77 AD. Such coins are called 'Semi-autonomous' or 'Quasi-autonomous' issues of Greek cities that were allowed to make very small denominations without the emperor's portrait. Even Rome did this since you rarely see an Imperial portrait on a quadrans. I would call the coin a Provincial rather than just Roman. The ID was done by a dealer that did not work from books or knowledge but copied the listing for a coin with HP date sold by Forvm Ancient Coins and shown on acsearch. Sometimes I wonder if any thought is given to such misuse by some of the so-called professionals in the trade but I am glad that you were able to correct this error just by realizing that the letters were a date and not random. I would think that anyone able to find the coin as a match to the acsearch example would also realize that dates change but I guess they don't think and prefer to copy blindly. It is a nice coin and equally interesting whether the emperor that year was Nero or Vespasian. Report this Post to the Staff
Doucet Pillar of the Community United States 1315 Posts	Posted 12/13/2011 11:42 am Thank you dougsmit, I have now found it. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/ca...pg=6248&fld=http://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins/ Part of my confusion, when I thought it might be Vespasian, was that on Wildwinds the descriptive (year=) for Vespasian coins had changed to year=1,year=2 etc. from what was used for Nero (year=108). This seems to have started with Galba and made no sense at first. Another thing that was confusing was that when I found the coin for Nero, year=108 ET HP on the Forvm site, that dougsmit mentioned, it shows the dates for Nero's reign in the title above as 75-76 AD. The same as Vespasian. This might be a miss-print. There are a few of these showing sold on acsearch, but price wise they don't seem to be particularly rare. Thanks http://www.forumancientcoins.com/ca...pg=4170&fld=http://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins/ Report this Post to the Staff
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