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 Posted 01/04/2012  6:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just wondering if you guys think this is authentic.

It's not my coin, but one for sale. Two other silver coins from seller have this same greenish color. Does silver ever take on a green color?

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 Posted 01/04/2012  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the image it looks a bit odd,could just be the image. Silver will tarnish and turn green if it has been in contact with base metal coins. I'm just not sure if it's good or not. If it was me I would not buy it.
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 Posted 01/04/2012  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen only or two 'greenish' silver Roman coins in the whole of my collecting experence. I do have a denarius of Geta that is dark like this one, and a Nilus Egyptian tetradrachm of Hadrian that is also very dark, but they don't have a slightly greenish tinge.

The silver alloy used for almost all of Hadrian's denarii was reasonably good at around 80% purity. Having said that, even the official Roman mints were capable of producing denarii with dodgy alloy, but they are very scarce, and I have not seen a silver denarius of Hadrian like this one before.

Most silver coins if they present dark, are heavily patinated with sulphides and / or chlorides of silver. If this coin is simialr to the other two mentioned, they may have come from the same burial site. I would certainly make an inquiry to the seller about this. The greenish tinge may have been helped by the dark patination.

I notice that there a few high points on the coin where the subsrate metal shows. It would be good if you could get a 20 x magnification loupe that does dot suffer from color abberation, onto those areas. To make good judgement, skill and experience is needed with such a loupe. I use one for the internal examination of cut gemstones.

Hope this helps.
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 Posted 01/04/2012  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd suspect the coin is good and would clean up but how much I'd bet on that is another matter.
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 Posted 01/04/2012  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin looks wrong to me. I'd stay away unless the price is worth the gamble. BTW, do you know anything about the seller?
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 Posted 01/04/2012  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"do you know anything about the seller?"

No, I haven't run across this seller before...now that you mention it I'll find out a little more.

Right now it's at 45.00 with a good bit of interest so we'll see what happens.

Like sel_691 mentioned I have not seen one like this before either, although they seem to have made a number of different dies for these Hadrians

I have very little denaro to risk at the present time so I may have to wait for one that is more of a sure bet.

Thanks for the help.
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 Posted 01/04/2012  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just searched all the Hadrian Egypt coins on line. The only ones selling for this price are in terrible condition and even some in that condition are demanding top dollar. This one is in too good condition to be at that price. Me thinks something stinks in Denmark (or Great Britain in this case).
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