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Yes, I have heard of them.

The only problem is, I think there are ways to make them from the copper plated ones, so I'm not sure if that one is authentic or not. I don't think there is a way to tell by looking at a photo.

I have found 2 of them in circulation, looking through rolls, but it is hard to tell if they have been tampered with to make them look that way.

Also, the coin is not AU. They are way off. It is closer to VF, since the coin is quite worn. Not sure if that is from acid to wash off the copper or from actually wear.
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Possible, but not likely. Easy to dissolve copper, but more fun to put one with a pinhole in butyric (?) acid and let it stand until the zinc dissolves. Sell it as one that went through the copper plating without having a zinc blank in it.
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I have a few unplated errors of British decimal coins, so it does not surprise me that a U.S. unplated penny has surfaced.

So I will ask a question:
What is it's market value?
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No I don't think it's a plating issue I think it's a basement job. A real unplated cent would have a kinda cart wheel effect going on with it and the coin shown is dull looking.
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I don't like the looks of this one at all.Looks to be a basement job.
As for the cartwheel luster John1 is talking about, I've heard that from other members too. But I've seen them slabbed with no luster at all so I'm not sure that's an indicator in all cases.
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Looks to me like one that has had the plating stripped off post mint.
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Abe is having a bad hair day. Doesn't look right.
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If you really think it is a fake, are you going to report it to ebay? Sellers aren't allowed to sell fakes. I doubt the seller even knows it is a fake.
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Can you prove it is fake? Me, neither.
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At first glance, before I had even read any of the other posts, my instinct said the coin has been stripped. After reading the other posts, it looks like some others feel the same way. Hard to tell from a picture that itself could be altered.
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I've also been told that "carthweel" is the diagnostic for Lincolns missing plating.
I have a partially unplated cent that I think shows struck surfaces.

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Thanks for the great picture. Now I have a better understanding of what 'cartwheel' is supposed to look like.
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Possible, but not likely. Easy to dissolve copper, but more fun to put one with a pinhole in butyric (?) acid and let it stand until the zinc dissolves. Sell it as one that went through the copper plating without having a zinc blank in it.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I just saw this.

You're diabolical, fredd.

Just don't press on the resulting coin.
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DV-

I'm not sure how that could be a mint error. Stacking another coin on top and brushing on copper-eating acid might do it, tho.
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Biggfredd, there was a discussion of this coin here I was satisfied by Bill's response, the cartwheel is very evident on the zinc. Mike Diamond has confirmed my coin is a genuine partial plating error.
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