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So I just got a new lot of Romans, some of which were cleaned and some of which were better uncleaned. I think that I have IDed a number of of them, but I want to get some confirmation on these as well as some help on those which I am not sure of. Any assistance would be appreciated!

1. Valantinian (?) - Siscia mint


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2. Constantine I- MSK (Cyzicus) mint


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3. Constantine I- ? mint (mint mark = "?NOSS?"


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4. Unknown Ruler and mint (The design looks really crude- maybe a barb?)


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5. Unknown Ruler and mint (mint mark appears to be "SOLSS"


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I cannot read the obverse legend of your #2 coin. But if it is Constantine I with a mintmark of SMK Delta, it is probably Cyzicus RIC VII 79 AE3 struck 330-335 AD:

CONSTANTI-NVS MAX AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right / GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS, two soldiers holding spears and shields with two standards between them, o on banners. SMKD in ex.
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Coin #1 I think is Gratian with a SECVRITAS-REIPVBLICAE reverse.

RIC IX Siscia 15c

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w/Gil-galad. Gratian RIC IX Siscia 15c.
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The last two coins I cannot make out enough detail to help other than the last ones mintmark should be "CON__" meaning Constantiople. The third coin is a Constantine I with Gloria Exercitvs reverse, but I can'[t make out anything on the mintmark and without a mintmark, for me it's impossible to attribute or even to get close. Perhaps you can see something in hand that isn't evident on the image. BTW, I know of no mintmark "NOSS".
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Thanks for the input, everyone! I think that you guys are right about numbers 1 &2, and one second look, I think that #3 is in fact constantinopolis.

Any more guesses about numbers 4 or 5? I am absolutely certain that the mint mark of number 5 is "SOLS?" (The last letter is either S or E).
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I've taken and lighten your images and placed shadow where I thought I might be able to see better, but with you last coin, I think I see "DN---" to begin the obverse legend, and I know I see "---s publica on the reverse legend. The mintmark to me looks like "CONS-". I can't make out what the reverse is, can you?
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5 looks more like CONSS to me and I don't know where you guys get all your luck:
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I think 4 is Gallienus but work on 5 first.
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5 looks more like CONSS to me and I don't know where you guys get all your luck:


By golly, I think Doug is correct. Avery hard Emperor to find if it proves out and I think it will. Congrats. Great pickup for sure.
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dougsmit- WOW! Great eye! And you are totally correct: It is Hannibalianus. (And I love the fact that the wikipedia image of this emperor is this very coin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibalianus )

So I just got #5 in an uncleand lot. Finally I found something awesome! So any guesses as to what my very worn example may be worth? (I only paid about $4 for it).
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So any guesses as to what my very worn example may be worth? (I only paid about $4 for it).


It is worth much more than what you paid for no other reason than these coins are rare. Can your be cleaned up any without damaging the coin? In great shape like the one Doug linked to, its value is over $1100. But even in poor condition, I think you coin's value is fairly high. Even the poorest quality of this coin listed on wildwinds sold for more then $100.

One of these days I will find one. Hannibalianus is one of the few rulers I don't have yet. Again, congratulations.
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Wow, that's great finding a Hannibalianus in a lot of uncleaned coins. Congrats. That's why I like buying uncleaned lots, you never know what you may find.
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I like buying uncleaned lots, you never know what you may find.


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jwharper- WOW! I had no idea! Honestly, I usually just get a lot of fallen horseman Constantius II coins in lots from this dealer, so this is wonderful news.

dougsmit- Thanks for all the help!

echizento- Thanks! It really is true that sometimes stuff still can be found in uncleaned lots (so long as the middlemen accidentally miss the great coins during their initial sifts. haha).
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SO any more guesses about number 4? I have been looking through Wildwinds for Gallienus, but I have yet to see the particular reverse design of the standing figure facing left and holding scales(?) and a roman numeral "XII" on the right.
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