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Hello, jonmalco, and welcome!
First of all the date is Islamic rather than Hebrew.
Indeed it says AH 1223 which corresponds to AD 1808 but that is just the ascension year (of the sultan Mahmud II); the regnal year on the coin is 29, that would be about 1836. I see that you coin was struck in Constantinople.
So, it looks like it is Ottoman Turkey, silver 1 para, ninth series (years 25 - 32). According to the catalog the purity is only .170.
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deffinitely an ottoman coin but It's so damaged. I can see it's minted in Istanbul(konstantiniye). but date is hard to guess. And the tugra belongs to abdulaziz who ruled between 1830-1876. Despite all the damage Konstantiniye versions of abdulaziz coins are rare.
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I can see it's minted in Istanbul(konstantiniye). I outlined it:  Quote:
And the tugra belongs to abdulaziz who ruled between 1830-1876. I believe in this condition it is easier to decipher the date than read the tugra. See here the tugra of Mahmud II (under his portrait), and here the tugra of Abdul Aziz, who ruled 1861 - 1876. Edited by svslav
02/18/2012 6:40 pm
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Thanks everyone for the quick and great help
Jonathan
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 , jonmalco! |
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@svslav I istanbul(konstantiniye) is the ottoman name of constantinople. so no difference when I wrote that comment I havent seen anybody replied to thread. and I don't know how could you read date with all that damage but I couldn't. So as a guess I wrote abdulaziz because he had a flower near his tugra at his rare constantinople coins. but now I see it's not the same flover abdulaziz used near his tugra. this one is absolutely abdulmecit's.  |
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and that's an abdulmecit coin looks exactly like what he has;  Edited by apeka
02/19/2012 02:57 am
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 I don't think dating this coin is too big of as mystery. The regnal year is pretty clear, 29, otherwise it would be the hardest variable to figure out. The ascension year is a bit tougher, yet still, the first 1 and the last 3 are quite obvious, and the 2's in the middle are making a pretty convincing case. Considering that there are just a few "ascension dates" for Ottoman Empire during a given period, one can establish that AH 1223 is the only perfect match. |
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and that's the coin possibly he has It would look similar, but now you're showing Abdul Mejid's coin (ascension AH 1255) |
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ah ok you re right! it's mahmoud the second. I should quit identifying ottoman coins. you re right! the tugra fooled me. sorry.
Edited by apeka
02/19/2012 03:13 am
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The only example of Mahmud's coin of a similar date that I could find on the net is this 10 qirsh minted in Egypt. The coin is on Coin Archives.  This coin has identical ascension year and regnal year to the coin jonmalco has. The tugra would be the same. The rest of the design, including denomination under the tugra will differ (the coin in question has nothing under tugra). |
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Is my coin worth anything? I am not sure what price guide I would use for foreign coins?
Thanks again
Jonathan
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Can anyone point me to a price guide for this coin?
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Standard catalog of world coins 1801-1900, liberry may have it/be able to get it.
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Sorry, I forgot about this thread.
My catalog, which is about ten years old, quotes the price for an AH 1223/29 para as US$ 0.75 in VG, and US$ 1.25 in F (but I don't think your coin is in Fine condition). The European and Turkish markets may disagree, as far as I know all Ottoman coinage is in demand in Turkey.
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