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I picked this up from a junk shop along with my earlier Russian coin, again for 10p. Is it genuine, or a modern copy?

It appears to be a silver-coloured metal under some strange paint.
weight 6.3g, diameter is 19.0 to 20.7mm at widest.

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 Posted 02/20/2012  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin appears to be a Roman Provinical, I can't make out the emperors name covered by the red crust.
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How can I remove it without damaging the coin? I think it is red paint.

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Actually it's not paint but deposits from the ground where the coin was buried. You will not be able to remove it with out scratching the coin. so it's better to just leave it alone.
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I think I'm reading Probus in Greek. The bust has that look too.
I didn't exhaust all the options, but it looks similar to this Alexandria tetradrachm.

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Alexandria. Probus. 276-282 AD. Billon Tetradrachm (20mm - 6.47 g). Dated Year 5 (279/80 AD). Laureate and cuirassed bust right / Homonoia standing left, right hand raised, holding cornucopia in left.
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Looks real to me - I'm by no means an expert on these but I think its Emperor Probus with Athena seated on the reverse.

It will date to around 280AD. I'm sure someone else on here will be able to confirm / improve the accuracy of this shortly.

10p is great - Wish I had shops like that near me

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Good eyes DVC, It does look like your example.
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- I posted at the same time as DVC - I think his example does look closer but not sure either are perfect.
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Bobby, The reverse I posted isn't a good match. Perhaps this reverse is closer:

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Probus Potin Tetradrachm of Alexandria. A K M AVP PP-OBOC CEB, laureate cuirassed bust right / LB, Elpis standing left holding flower & hem of skirt. Milne 4531
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Wow! Beginner's luck.

I have only been collecting seriously for about two weeks. So I went to a junk shop in a nearby town, where they had a big box of old coins for 10p each. I bought a handful of what looked the most interesting. Now my eyes are opened, I am going back with a bucket...
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I am going back with a bucket...


At 10p it would be rude not too! Who knows what else you could pick up.

That certainly looks pretty good DVC - We should also be able to work out the date letters, does a single 'L' exist? Thats all I can see atm.
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You all are fast you, beat me to it. I'm just slow at attribution. No doubt about it.

Here is one I think looks close.


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Probus, summer 276 - September 282 A.D., Roman Provincial Egypt

28555. Billon tetradrachm, Dattari 5533; Milne 4531; Curtis 1881; Geissen 3128; BMC Alexandria p. 313, 2417, VF, Alexandria mint, 7.089g, 20.3mm, 0°, 29 Aug 276 - 28 Aug 277 A.D.; obverse AK M AVP ΠPOBOC CEB, laureate and cuirassed bust right; reverse Elpis standing left, holding flower and raising skirt, date B / L left (year 2); $50.00

Attribution of Forvm AC via ACSearch

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I built a small collection of the ALexandrian coinage of Probus over a few years and can but concur with the conclusions above that it is indeed Probus, Elpis, Year 2. It is a very common type but at the price is an absolute steal.

Here is my own example for comparison :-

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The year 1 example as illustratd below is slightly scarcer though not rare.

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It is odd look through a thread and see some of your own coins referenced in a thread, the Athena seated above is one of mine.....

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