Thanks for the help guys! I can now narrow down my search on the smaller coin to Nurnberg. To answer Banji's question, the coins do not look like reproductions to me (I've seen reproductions), but then I'm no expert. I'll bring them in to a local coin dealer when I get a chance and get his opinion.
Thank you MuncyCoinMan! I now have both coins identified so I probably need to exit this forum. I appreciate all the help. As a first time user of coincommunity.com I can say it has been a very positive experience.
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