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WWII 1934-D Nazi Coin Error? Weak Strike? Opinions Please.

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Hey all. Well. I hate to admit this. But I buy old Nazi coins at my coin dealers for scrap silver. They are one coin, in my opinion that I don't mind destroying. So I buy them for their 90% silver content to refine and use in projects such as minting my own drop hammer coins, jewelry or making 995/999 ingots. Anyway. I picked up a load of these coins a while back. 90% of them where these 1934 D mintmark Potsdam Church coins.
I came across this one coin that I noticed was possibly an error? I am no expert in nazi coins. But I do know, of all the 1934 5 mark coins I have seen of this D mintmark. I have never seen one with a 4 like this. The 4 is incomplete. Notice the slant in the upper part of the 4 is missing. Just a rare variation of the 4? An error? Weak strike? If its an error. I would rather try to pass it on to a collector of errors that likes WWII coinage. As I have sold a few of these here and there on ebay when I find them in high grade or scarce mintages. To be honest. Yes, I will capitalize on on a nasty nazi coin if its collectible because I only pay scrap for them. My coin dealer is Jewish btw. So I find lots in high grade ext that may have been part of a collection someone took time to put together. But they just toss into a scrap bin. Where, I do find some over looked goodies here and there other than just these nasty nazi coins. Below is a couple pictures of the "34" close up. And I am also including a picture of a regular 1934 D so you can compare the "4". Hope this doesn't offend anyone. Just looking into it is all. As there is a collectors market for these coins, even if very little.
1934 Possible Error.
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Another Angle of error? 34
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Here is a picture of a normal 1934 D for comparison. Notice the fully closed 4. That is normal and what I see on every other coin like this I have ever seen. I also looked on ebay just to see if I could find my "unclosed" 4. And found nothing.

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Hey all. Well. I hate to admit this. But I buy old Nazi coins at my coin dealers for scrap silver. They are one coin, in my opinion that I don't mind destroying. So I buy them for their 90% silver content to refine and use in projects such as minting my own drop hammer coins, jewelry or making 995/999 ingots. Anyway. I picked up a load of these coins a while back. 90% of them where these 1934 D mintmark Potsdam Church coins.



Nothing to be ashamed of in buying nazi coins. They have nice designs. The coins didn't start any wars or kill people, and a big chunk of history is being melted away. No excuse to ruin coins because it's from an enemy nation, that's a silly idea.

Though you can do what you want with your coins, they're yours. Just sharing my opinion.
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Either a worn die or grease on the die.
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Melting silver nazi 5 reichsmarks is like throwing money in a trash compactor since they area almost always worth premiums over melt even in the worst condition. I myself buy up as many as I can find, sometimes even paying more than melt value for resale. Potsdams have even a higher premium than the regular Hindenberg issues, especially the ones with 1933 on the obverse. 1934F Birth of Shiller's and the 1933 Martin Lither issues go for well over a hundred dollars a piece even in garbage shape.

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Xavier. Believe it or not. I first bought them to resell on ebay. But it didn't go so great for the common ones. Not a high enough premium on most of them even in high grade to bother with on ebay. So I use them for my own metal smithing. However. If you are a collector. I will look for the coins you are talking about next time I visit. I would be happy to help ad to your collection at a discount. I find loads of them. And sorry if you feel what I do is "wrong". I have nothing against Germans. But, I am not someone who has any care for the Nazi party. I am half irish from my mother, and had a scottish grandfather on the other side, who married my grandmother who came from Poland. As well as her parents. I am not Jewish though. Irish and Polish catholic. But the stories I heard about what happened, are horrific. And I also did work for a Polish man who also ran away from Poland during that war. And his stories where horrible as well. So I have ZERO love for Nazi stuff. Can't help it. War sucks. But what a lot of those men did. Are just unspeakable. I do feel somewhat a little guilty because of people who collect the coins for a historic purpose. We all have coins we like to collect for different reasons. I have my area of coins I love to collect too. Mainly Newfoundland coins. And I hate seeing the Newfoundland coins in the dealers melt bin. I buy everyone from Nflnd I find even in the worst shape. And I have made a nice collection for a fraction of the book price. All the coins I buy out of that bin, as well as 99% of the foreign coins I buy. All go the the refinery anyway. The silver and gold rush has made it that so many coins are coming into that shop. They just dont bother with them anymore. I have found loads of gems in those scrap/melt bins. I found an OLD pop out coin the last time. It is a 75-100$ coin that was 5$! So I actually save a heck of a lot of coins. But the Nazi ones. Eh...if I see one I know is valuable. I'll pick it up. But otherwise. They are nice sized coins, most of them are 90% silver. And worth great for what I do. And btw. Most, if not almost all local jewelers use coin silver. Mainly from Sterling coins. But chances are, if you are wearing a handmade silver or gold ring. Its from a coin. I am also a jeweler btw.
Anyway. If you want. Write me a list of the coins you want or need for your nazi coin collection. And I will be happy to see if they are in the bins when I go. I also pick threw the copper, CuNi or clad foreign bins as well. So I see them in there too. Not the silver ones. but the bronze, zinc, and aluminum ones. And I did find one once that I pay 5 cents for and made 50 bucks. Anyway. Offer stands. If any 3rd Reich coins are there. I'll sell them to you for much much cheaper than book value. Or trade them since you collect them. I have about 6 of them right now. I'll look and see what I have left. A friend of mine took all the none silver ones I bought to try to sell. He is into WWII stuff. But, there is a lot more there.

Anyway...THANKS for the response guys. I was curious about that "4". I am knew to looking for errors, double dies ext. I do have a few more foreign coins with over dates ext. I dunno where to post them. Or if they are worth posting.

Ok all. Cheers and thanks again. -Ryan
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What % of silver used to make these was confiscated from those rounded up by the SS, etc?
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I'd send you an email, but you don't have it set up on your CCF account.
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