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Different "0" In 1980 Canadian Dime

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 Posted 03/03/2012  11:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add samsnate to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does anyone have a picture that I can reference of the two different "0" in the 1980 Canadian dime? Thank-you. CHEERS!
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 Posted 03/03/2012  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samsnate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also I found a 1980 quarter with a perfect flat outside edge. Feeling the rim I can't feel any kind of reeded edge that used to be there. Is this quarter really worn out or is this a variety? Thank-you.
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 Posted 03/04/2012  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a thread on the 1980 10 cents:

https://goccf.com/t/68944
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 Posted 03/04/2012  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samsnate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank-you for the link! Very helpful. CHEERS!
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 Posted 03/04/2012  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add castor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hello

The best way to validate is always the bottom line of the nine that you can see in the picture.

I never look at the zero.

Different-
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 Posted 03/04/2012  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samsnate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is another very good observation. I like it too! Thank-you.
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 Posted 03/04/2012  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coingirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not sure about you guys... BUT..think about it..

the mint produces millions of each Canadian circulation denomination since after 1967.
they use very modern equipment. they use the latest die technology.
However, they have to make it interesting.
so? how do we keep the collectors as customers?
oh... yes, we make a few with a slight difference.. and everyone will go bananas over it.....
I notice, their assumption is now reality.
Guys and girls.. , make sure you turn every bank upside down for these "mint errors"..
RCM can tell you exactly where they sent them to...
there are very few and true mint errors in the new coins.
A real dedicated collector does not touch most of them... because most were purposely made by RCM.
real errors are easily identified and are not just another die or another font used.
want to collect real errors... check out the old Canadian coins... 1858 to 1915.... that is where the treasures are...
these were the times when dies were hand made, and errors, once made in the dies, were just too time consuming to correct right away. OR, were simply and honestly over looked...
Over looked? right..easy, as the mind plays games on you when you always see the same..same...same...same....same...some...
Now back to coffee, cup #3
CG
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 Posted 03/04/2012  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@coingirl- You're mistaking errors for varieties. There are a lot of variety collectors and they have just as much fun looking for the differences as error collectors do looking for mistakes.
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 Posted 03/04/2012  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coingirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry diggit... you are very right...
I am sorry for my rant..
But then, what consitutes an error, and what constitutes a Variety?
for most it boils down to " what is my collection worth?' right? or wrong?
Or, better said: what will my collection be worth a few years from now?

But, perhaps I planted a seed?
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 Posted 03/04/2012  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coingirl,you've planted the seed of misinformation,to suggest that the Mint purposely produces errors or varieties of circulation coins for profit is preposterous.
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 Posted 03/04/2012  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add samsnate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just an opinion guys! Dont take too personally. I was asking this question about the "o" type because if I'm going to go through the rolls searching, I might as well look for coins that notes have been made for by the books and collectors alike. I personally dont care....I want the silver only, but If I come across something That I know another collector would like to have, I would like to be informed on what it is they want and I can keep my eyes open for it. CHEERS!
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 Posted 03/05/2012  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coingirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DBM,
can you then please explain how come they manage to constantly make "artificial" mistakes?
please remember this: they use the latest technology in machinery, design criteria and, software which is close to fool proof.
example: theit SW will pick up when a coin is accidentially stuck and it stops the machines right there. the coin is / should be ejected into a special bin It is now the attendants (more that 1) job to remove any and all not correctly struck items. If they do not reemove it and let a dbl struck coin go into circulation (backdoor does not work anymore), is that now an error, a variety, or a simple illegal action?
(IMO, It is most certainly NOT a variety, as a variety is purposely made different than the other.)

BUT, there is an immediate record created by SW, KNOWING THE EXACT NUMBER OF COINS INVOLVED. I suggest that the mint does close both eyes purposely to create attention amongst collectors.
the same goes for die rotated coins. Coins in the new machines do very seldom rotate anymore, and if they do, it is so minimal. SO, that, IMO leaves only on conclusion: it is done by choice... and hence NOT an error.
remember the fiasko with the 1967 dbl struck and flipped dollars? and the 1973 / 1974 10$ Mule? ... the RCMP investigated both cases....
none should have ever left the mint..at that time, nobody could or wanted to explain... they had backdoors then where dealers or friends were conveniently walking by....
Have you, or anyone else seen any significant normally occuring "ERRORS" since?
Maybe a few very tiny die breaks...again, SW and sensors detect it now...Clipped coins, maybe a few.. but should again NOT have left the mint...
there are a few , very few true errors which are not detectable with SW or normal Quality control du to high volume. but they are few.
Is a different font a Error? NO.....
I probably had one of the last real errors...the 1985 NZ Mule 1$ nickel. Machinery and SW in 1985 was antique compared to todays.
enough from me on this... these items are not really my interest.
DBM, if you have another explanation, lets hear it.
and please... do not try and suggest that the mint has a stellar reputation....
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 Posted 03/05/2012  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scissel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I was asking this question about the "o" type because if I'm going to go through the rolls searching,...


Round "0" 10c coins were made at the Winnipeg mint for circulation coinage. Oval "0" 10c coins were made at the Ottawa mint for pliofilm sets. I wouldn't bother looking for the oval "0" coin in circulation. If by some chance you do find one, it will be an impaired PL coin cut out of a set and used as money.
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 Posted 03/05/2012  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dvereckis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"to suggest that the Mint purposely produces errors or varieties of circulation coins for profit is preposterous"

To this all I can say is 2006 1 cent, or should that be all 6 2006 1 cents?
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 Posted 03/06/2012  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To answer the SECOND question :-). Maybe the 1980 quarter is a 'clip' where the planchet came from the edge of the sheet?
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 Posted 03/06/2012  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coingirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scissel...
Are you suggesting that the sets are NOT money?
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