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Hello All
I recently bought a container of world coins at auction and I have been able to identify most of them but these two elude me. I thought they might of been Indian since there were quite a few Indian coins going back to the early to mid 1800's but no luck. Any help would be appreciated.
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The right one is a rupee of Afghanistan, KM# 814.
Dated AH 1313 (= AD 1895)
Mintmark "Kabul" above the mosque.
Both images are pretty much upside down.

The left one I cannot recognize yet. The date, on the top image (upside down again) appears to be 1362. If it is Lunar Hejira it would be AD 1943. If Solar Hejira then AD 1983.
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Thank You to svslav for identifying the 1 rupee coin, obviously I didn't go back far enough. I apologize for the coin being upside down, I cannot read the script.
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Corrected Axis.
I have flipped both coins, hopefully they are on the correct axis.


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Maybe next time I will be awake when I post something, Sorry.






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Yes, you corrected the other piece, and even cropped it nicely (now I have my doubts that it is a coin). But you removed the Afghan rupee, some people may want to see it.

About the one that's left. It looks to me as either imitation, or Iranian, but some kind of medallion. In the former case the date wouldn't matter, in the latter it would be 1983. The number on top is 786.
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Hello svslav
Can you give any kind of translation of what it says? I don't care if its a coin or not but I am curious about what it says.
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I believe it's a kind of Islamic religious amulet, given to pilgrims departing for the Hajj to Mecca.

First off, there are two numbers in the top picture that can be interpreted easily. At the bottom is the number "1362". This is (presumably) the date in the Islamic calendar in which it was made (or perhaps the year it was first designed). AH 1362 converts roughly to AD 1943. I'm assuming it isn't the Solar Hejira calendar because that calendar is only used in parts where the Persian numerals are also used (Iran and Afghanistan); the "6" is written differently there.

At the top is another numeral: 786. 786 is a number that has attained mystical significance among some branches of Islam, especially in India/Pakistan/Bangladesh: if you take the first verse of the Qur'an, convert the letters into numbers using the Abjad numeral system, add them up and you get 786. These Muslim theologians are less than impressed with both the theology and the mathematics of using the number, but "786" is nevertheless commonly seen on charm-like medals such as this. This one posted here on the forum features the number much more prominently.

My skill at Arabic/Persian reading is inadequate to give you a translation, but I would assume it to be verses from the Qur'an.
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Thank You Sap for all your information. I am always curious about things like this. I appreciate your help very much.
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Sap is helpful :) I even never see this kind of coin before
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