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 Posted 03/20/2012  01:49 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add snappy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, new to the forum and started noodling 6 months ago. I found this 5 cent coin and the coin has a huge dent on her cheek. My photos are not great but you can see there is something wrong. Any thoughts?

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 Posted 03/20/2012  02:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snappy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

This might be a better photo, the dent is above her ear and around the hairline.

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 Posted 03/20/2012  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome Snappy
If it is a dent it is probably PMD
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 Posted 03/20/2012  02:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ausjack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
snappy, with trout and he's the master of PMD
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 Posted 03/20/2012  04:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snappy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, still something to keep. Slowly getting a good collection of coins and having fun along the way!
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 Posted 03/20/2012  04:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Thanks, still something to keep. Slowly getting a good collection of coins and having fun along the way!

thats what this hobby is all about Mate
An AJ I'm about to do a bit of PMD on a couple of pigs
You want before and after picks
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 Posted 03/20/2012  04:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ausjack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's the way snappy, then you can do what I've done recently and have a big clean up and put heaps back in the pond..stick around mate and post more pic's and someone will let you know what to keep

Your a shocka trout you'll get in trouble i'll hav arf..send er in the post email me some pic's
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 Posted 03/20/2012  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't say that's PMD until you can see the other side of the coin. It could be struck through a blob of oil. I've seen a very similar effect on some pennies and half-pennies.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  06:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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wouldn't say that's PMD until you can see the other side of the coin. It could be struck through a blob of oil. I've seen a very similar effect on some pennies and half-pennies.


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 Posted 03/20/2012  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a bit two ways on this one, perhaps as suggested, struck through an oil blob, but it could be
impact damage. The raised detail parts of the design are slightly more susceptible to an impact of this type.
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Snappy to CCF.
It could be PMD and generally speaking the indent will show on the other side of the coin. If the other side of the coin shows no bowing or damage then it is more than likely caused during the minting process.

It would help if you could post a photo of the other side of the coin.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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No, ghosting is something completely different. I am talking about portraits with "dents" in them. The reverse design opposite the indentation will tell the tale. If the design is damaged it's PMD, if it's properly struck then it's been struck through something.
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 Posted 03/20/2012  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Squire Wilson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
snappy1

What a coincidence. I have just recently joined Coin Community, and I have also started checking my change 6 months ago !.
To make it more fun and successful I have approached this the following way.

First I have my "outfit" - see attached image below.

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The "Greg McDonald" is a great guide, but it does have limitations. I have found it important to check through "Coin Community" correspondence for "updates". For example, it is the 1994 50 cent "Year of the Family" WIDE date that is the scarce variation, which is the reverse of what McDonald mentions.

From this knowledge I have a "hit list" of coins to look out for. I will see if I can post this in a future correspondence.

I look at the coins in my change using the magnifying glass first. Aside from the above "hit list" I also look for anything unusual in the coins (see my "Show and Tell - part 2" posting).

I then use the higher magnification Lupe to look at particular coins of interest in more detail.
It also pays to put groups of a particular commemorative 20 cent, 50 cent, 1 dollar coin side by side and "scan" these with the magnifying glass - to detect more subtle variations.

To make it more fun I look for:

Foreign coins in our change.
Mis-struck coins.
Damaged coins.
Unusual coins - from my "hit list".
Very good condition (uncirculated) older coins that appear in the change from time to time.

With all these criteria, I can often add to my album !.

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 Posted 03/21/2012  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snappy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, have re photographed the coin on both sides. No damage on other side,no expert but it is really unusual!

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 Posted 03/21/2012  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The balance of probability is that it's a genuine error. Struck Through Grease. I'd have to see it in hand to be absolutely certain though.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  03:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snappy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the information,it actually looks like a skeleton and no need for a magnifying glass it is so obvious there was something wrong that's how I found it.
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