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In Honour Of Superdave, A 1921 Moose

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 Posted 02/07/2007  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gary, no apologies needed. The type of toning this 1921 Morgan has is called 'bag toned', where it acquired it's color from sitting for about 60 years undisturbed in the original canvas mint bag. The straight lines you are referring to are from a fold in the bag that pressed up against the coin.....the textile dots you see within this area match up perfectly with the weave from these bags. It's rare, and highly sought after by us color nuts.
It sounds like your toned coins developed from albums, and are a little different than bag toned coins in that they develop their color from the rim inwards. This often leads to bulls eye patterns, and are almost always toned on both sides (bag toned are usually only toned on the side that was in contact with the bag). The last addition to my collection is album toned, and I'm quite pleased with her. Here's a picture, you can see how the color developeded from the rims to the center like your coins have.
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 Posted 02/07/2007  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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please forgive me if I seem negative on this subject, I am not. but I do get taken wrong on occasion


Gary, no need to apologize at all. That is the inherent problem with typing compared to speaking, and I do it myself. It's very hard not to come across wrong when you can't talk to the person face to face. I read all posts as if someone had a smile on their face when writing it, and it makes it easier to not read into things per say.



Hadley, once again an awesome explanation. I would have no idea where to look and what to look at when dealing with "color". You are a wealth of knowledge on this. Thanks
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 Posted 02/07/2007  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hadley. that is exactly what I was talking about (your second coin) but I still stick to my guns as for the other coin it is possible and probably even likely that you are correct. but if I have any doubt at all I stay away and don't bite even if I am wrong. I have found in quite a few yrs of searching and collecting that if I go with my first impression I "usually" don't get burnt. all though I have been bit in the past. and that is the only reason that I approach coins like this very slowly and sometimes remove myself very quickly. and yes I have watched that one in a million leave in another's hand because of my first impression. but I always feel good about my actions in the end. sorry I'm not trying to be a poet. just trying to make myself understood as tactfully as possible. and to sum it all up. you should be very happy with your coin wether or not I like it. but as for myself. I would not buy it. I did learn from this one coin though so my time is not wasted and that's a good thing. not quoting Martha lol
Thanks for your time and understanding
Gary
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you should be very happy with your coin wether or not I like it.


Hi Gary, I think you missed that this coin does not belong to me..........I wish. It belongs to Andy Kimmel of Paragon numismatics, and is not nor has been for sale for a very, very long time now (at least 15 years).
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