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BuffaloNuts Valued Member United States 57 Posts	Posted 04/04/2012 7:20 pm I picked this up a few months ago. Please grade the details, and try and ignore the gouge in the reverse, and the rim dings. I think I got a pretty good price on it because of the damage. I will tell you what it was graded by the seller and the price after I get some replies... With some die clashes under the chin... The effects of the die clash on the reverse Report this Post to the Staff

oih82w8 Pillar of the Community United States 7840 Posts	Posted 04/04/2012 8:01 pm I don't like the inner circle next the rim on the reverse. May be something fishy. Report this Post to the Staff
CaptainFwiffo Pillar of the Community United States 4132 Posts	Posted 04/04/2012 8:22 pm I question if it's genuine. Report this Post to the Staff
BuffaloNuts Valued Member United States 57 Posts	Posted 04/04/2012 10:18 pm Quote: May be something fishy Quote: I question if it's genuine. I bought if from a pretty reputable dealer who specializes in Buffs. Dave's, 'The Collectors Friend." Report this Post to the Staff
SteveCaruso Pillar of the Community United States 1796 Posts	Posted 04/05/2012 01:22 am Aye, but (1) we all make mistakes (2) fake 1913-S TIIs are a dime a dozen (well, ok, about $12-$25 a dozen wholesale nowadays), and (3) this guy has a lot of damage. Looking past that damage (at least from what I can see) something does look definitively off about it. It has to be a really late die state to get that level of mushiness and Cuds, and there are parts in the details of the hair that seem to be too deep where the area just under his nose (between his nostril and his bottom lip) looks too wide. Would you consider sending it into The Black Cabinet for a closer look? Report this Post to the Staff
Peter4805 Pillar of the Community Canada 986 Posts	Posted 04/05/2012 03:39 am This coin screams "fake". So many red flags I'm not sure where to start. But rather than give an itemized list of the problems I would do like Steve Caruso suggested and send it to the Black Cabinet. Report this Post to the Staff
BuffaloNuts Valued Member United States 57 Posts	Posted 04/05/2012 07:54 am Quote: Would you consider sending it into The Black Cabinet for a closer look? Sure. Do I need to send the actual coin in, or just pictures? Edited by BuffaloNuts 04/05/2012 08:05 am Report this Post to the Staff
SteveCaruso Pillar of the Community United States 1796 Posts	Posted 04/05/2012 09:45 am Generally, pictures will do if the counterfeit is obvious or is a variety already listed on the site. This one, however, might be best sent in as the battery of in-person tests is much more conclusive. (And if it ends up certified as inauthentic, then you have some leverage to get your money back from the guy who sold it to you in the first place.) Report this Post to the Staff
BuffaloNuts Valued Member United States 57 Posts	Posted 04/05/2012 2:39 pm Well steve, I will fill out the stuff and get it in the mail soon. I look forward to getting your take on it. Report this Post to the Staff
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