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 Posted 02/06/2007  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lest we forget Erik Mccrea's website:

Links To Micro-National and Fantasy Coins
http://www.geocities.com/erik_mccrea/linksA1.html
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 Posted 02/06/2007  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maryhm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I now have Sap, Don, and Nancy's list in Excel. If anyone has another list, please email it to me. Can someone comment on the list link that edix provided? Should that go into a master list as well?

Once everything is compiled, sorted, and organized I'll post the final list here.
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 Posted 02/06/2007  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The list of micronations and fantasy coins is only for the most hopeless cases of numismania.

Here's something that currently holds my fascination:

State of Sabotage currency
http://www.sabotage.at/sos/news/coins_en.php
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 Posted 02/06/2007  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maryhm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Edix- Since I'm not hopeless (yet), just helpless, I think I'll leave the micro-nations off for now. Thanks for the info, though!

I have combined the 3 lists I received into one excel file that can be accessed here:
http://www.monshaugenfamily.com/worldcoins.htm

I tried to remove all of the duplicates, but there are a few that look like they could be duplicates. If anyone notices anything amiss on the list, just post it here and I'll update the sheet.
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 Posted 02/06/2007  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djluster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
great list, I don't know if anyone has time or hte ablity to break these all up into 7 or 8 regions that why for the ones of use who collect buy region not everyone can put them in the prober space. I would do it but I am not that good with knowing were all of the contries are. I think that would make this the ultmite list if it was broken down both ways. But thank you for the file. that it a lot of coins to get.lol
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 Posted 02/06/2007  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maryhm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What are the regions?
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 Posted 02/06/2007  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djluster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not sure if this is right but I have mine in 8 different albums,
Europe, Asia, Africa, Middle East, South Pacific, North America,Central America & Caribbean, South America that is how I have mine divided don't know if it is right or if anyone else divide them like this but make it easiest for me to look at, Plus as I work on them I feel like I am getting somewhere when I get a album or region close to done. So that is what I mean by regions
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 Posted 02/06/2007  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First, do you have the 19th and 20th century Standard Catalog of World Coins? You really should have some reference material if you are looking to start such an ambitious collection. It will help you pick out what coins you may want to buy and that will make looking for those coins on the Internet a lot easier. It will also let you know the ballpark value of a coin. Sure web pages like worldcoingallery are nice, but they are certainly not exhaustive.

Second, don't write off micro-nations if you want to start a fish-themed collection. Cabinda has some great stuff:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cabinda-set-of-...NC_W0QQitemZ330075333103QQihZ014QQcategoryZ533QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
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 Posted 02/06/2007  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would love to see a Sticky or a permanet thread to this list on the forum
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 Posted 02/06/2007  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maryhm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Snowman- Is that the Krause catalog that you're referring to? If so, no I don't have it yet. I guess I'll have to start looking for a cheap used copy someone (hint, hint people on the forum with one laying around collecting dust!). And by the way, I hereby declare a pox on your house for showing me that set of coins from the micro-nation of Cabinda!! Now I have no choice but to add micro-nations to the list! I emailed the guy from http://www.geocities.com/erik_mccrea/ and have asked him for a .txt file of his listings. However, I see that Cabinda isn't even on his list. This could be a lot more work than I originally thought...

Djluster- Once I get a finalized list, I'll see about splitting it down by region. No promises on that one though.
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 Posted 02/06/2007  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am indeed talking about the Krause catalog. Amazon.com is selling the 34th edition 1901-2000 for $35.00 right now. In my opinion it is money well spent. You can also find the 19th edition 1801-1900 there used for about $25.00.

The Cabinda coins are interesting because they are not officially recognized by the Bank of Cabinda (a former Portuguese colony currently under the control of Angola). I'm not sure if that technically makes them micro-nation coinage or fantasy coinage. Regardless, they are some mighty nice looking fish coins.
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 Posted 02/06/2007  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maryhm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you give me a definition of micro-nation and fantasy coinage?

PS- Love that shark coin avatar!
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 Posted 02/06/2007  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Micro-nation coinage" would be coinage in the name of a country (normally self-proclaimed to be independent) which lacks diplomatic recognition. Places like Hutt River Province (in Western Australia) and Sealand (off the coast of Britain) would fall under this category. Somaliland (northern Somalia) and Transnistria (eastern Moldova) are fully-fledged countries, with their own parliament, army, taxpayers etc - all they lack is international recognition.

"Fantasy coinage" would be coinage in the name of a country that was not officially authorised by the government of that country. The "Edward VIII pattern crowns" are an excellent example of fantasy coinage.

Let me give an example, to distinguish them. If I were to make a coin of my own, in the name of the "Empire of Sapyxica", that would be micro-national coinage - Sapyxica exists nowhere except in my head. If, however, I were to make an otherwise identical coin in the name of the "United States of America", that would be a fantasy coin since, as far as I am aware, I'm not actually authorized by the US government to make such coins.

The distinction gets blurred when the "authorizing" government is itself a micronation. Take the plethora of Hutt River Province "coins" issued in the 1990's - most weren't actually authorized by Prince Leonard over in W.A., so they're both fantasy coinage and micronation coinage.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 Posted 02/06/2007  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maryhm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmmmm. Interesting. Do you think the micro-nation designation should be included? Sounds like probably not.
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 Posted 02/06/2007  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edix to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Cabinda coins are of questionable provenance. The rebels of Cabinda have claimed they are fakes from China.
The Hutt River Province coins, however, are legal tender in the Principality of Hutt River, as was reported in last month's issue of World Coin News by Mel Wacks.
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