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Diocletian Tet

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I just purchased this Tetradrachm of Diocletian from Alexandria, Egypt. I have tentatively attributed it as Milne 4750: Year 1 = 284/285 AD. A K GOYA L DIOKLHTIANOC CEB, laureate draped bust right / LA, Elpis standing left, holding flower, a long sash (?) hanging from her arm, & clutching hem of robe. 20mm, weight unknown

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 Posted 04/24/2012  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
super cool coin...great pick up. color is great.

you're going on "coin hold" after this one still....right jwharper?

remember I said I was going to hold out to till the 14th of may? yeah, we'll see how that pans out.
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Seems to be weakly struck on the high points, not wear.

As is often the case with these coins, they can be a bit dumpy, and with granular edges.

My theory about the edges:
I think these coins had a rather high tin content. Tin has a much lower melting point than copper, and the large paste temperature range, accentuated by the thick blank, shows up by the evidence of the granular edge.

The blanks for this issue would have been heated to soften them.
Melting point of tin 232 deg.C
Melting point of copper 1083 deg.C
That is a huge paste range of 851 celsius degrees.

If you have a lot of tin on the alloy, and with such a huge paste range, I reason that a granular edge would be a by product of the striking.
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Not a bad coin. I assume that Diocletian was the last Roman Provincial coins? Wikipedia doesn't seem to cover Roman Provincial coinage too well. I did find some evidence of it. Then again, I don't know much about Roman Provincial Coins right now.
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ou're going on "coin hold" after this one still....right


I am on hold as of now for at least a month. It'll be like holding my breath, but I'll try. Good luck to you too.
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I recall reading somewhere that the last Roman Provincial coins were struck in Egypt in 297 AD.
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Sear, in
'Greek Imperial Coins And Their Values'
lists six different types of billon tetradrachm under Diocletian, for the Mint of Alexandria in Egypt.

Sear numbers 4784 to 4789 inclusive.
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Few days ago there was this exchange....


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remember I said I was going to hold out to till the 14th of may? yeah, we'll see how that pans out.



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I am on hold as of now for at least a month. It'll be like holding my breath, but I'll try. Good luck to you too.


Yeah....I got some coins today....made it 6 days.....darned ebay...
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 Posted 04/29/2012  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gorgeous TET, jwh!!

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