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George IV 1823 Coin.

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 Posted 04/25/2012  2:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Classic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all, I have been looking through a relatives coin collection and come across a 1823 George iv coin. It is 22mm in dia and is roughly 6gram. There is no wreath on the head. Was wondering exactly what it is. Any advice would be appreciated
Thanks in advance
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 Posted 04/25/2012  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,Classic, and welcome to the forum.

All copper coins of KG4 had his head with a wreath.

The silver one w/o wreath are these (keeping it close to 22 mm)
Sixpence - dia 19mm - not minted in 1823
Shilling - dia 24 (weight 5.7 g) - no bare head till 1825.

And, of course, there was a gold sovereign, 22 mm in diameter (weight 8 g) - no bare head till 1825.

I'm afraid we'll need to see a picture of your item, and as of now I suspect it is not a (real) coin.
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 Posted 04/26/2012  03:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome.

If your coin is copper, it is the right size and about the right weight for a farthing.

regards
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there were also gaming tokens, resembling sovereigns (22mm) and double-sovereigns (about 28.4mm), made from brass, and bearing date 1823.
They are always lighter than real coins.
If yours is brass, you may have one of these tokens.
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Thanks for the response guys, I have a couple of pictures but struggling to upload them using a well known tablet. Does anybody have a email I can send them to?
Thanks again
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 Posted 04/28/2012  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Classic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Guys,
I have managed to get a couple of pictures on. Whats your thoughts?

Thanks Again

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It apperas to be gold plated copper or bronze.
On the heads side, you can see where there the plating has worn thin on the lettering, to expose the base metal underneath.
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It's a whist (card) counter made in the image of a gold sovereign. The original producers usually make it different enough not to be accused in forgery of a real thing, but it looks like this piece was tampered with by someone in the hopes to pass it as a gold coin.
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