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 Posted 02/08/2007  4:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mishap-coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
the newest and easiest way to certify and encapsulate your coins. ACC was developed in order to offer an attractive alternative in coin grading to collectors and non-collectors alike

http://www.acccoins.com/




CCGS

We're back! We are happy to announce that CCGS has been reacquired by the original ownership!


http://www.ccgscoins.com/




WCG

WCG is an independent third-party coin grading service. At WCG we grade our coins with the utmost integrity and highest quality.

http://www.worldcoingrading.com/





AGP

Numismatic Service that specializes in grading mid-value U.S. minted coins. The Professionals at AGP take sincere pride in our dedication to numismatic integrity. Unlike some Grading Services, who subscribe to a standard practice of routinely "over-grading" and/or misrepresenting conditions in order to boost values

http://agpcoins.com/


dcgs

We can professionally grade and encapsulate your coin in our patented 3-D Coin holder for only $24.95 per coin, Plus shipping

http://dcgscoins.com/page=grading.htm


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Good thing I wasn't drinking anything when I read this.
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Dave all the slabbers out there are beginning to make everyone drunk and dizzy with out lifting the bottle.
Seems there is no end in site when there is millions and millions and millions and millions being paid out just to have someone tell you (wow looking at your coin through my eyes and that it is this or that and now lets toss it in a slab). I believe the reality is if you are into collecting then protect your collection from the elements until such time you want to sell them then re-evaluate them without the great expense of slabbing.


I suppose all these companies are subject to the same scrutiny PCGS had from the federal trade commision back in the early 90s that is written on the feds site below.
I am sure PCGS follows most legal matters within the limits.

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/predawn/F93/pcgs-coin8.txt

("PCGS") misled consumers by falsely
claiming that it provides consistent, objective grading of coins
and that investment in PCGS-certified rare coins eliminates all
the risk associated with the grading of coins
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I just made a comment in the IGS thread which is pertinent to this one. http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...=11775#95352

To save myself the time for retyping my response, here's the copy and paste:

Bryan is quite correct. With over 120 unrated non-tiered fly-by-night slabbing companies out there, most of them established to overgrade and sell their own coins, a new slabber is guilty until proven innocent. Sure, a few may be honest attempts to compete with the biggies ANACS, PCGS, NGC, and ICG, but most are near-fraud or downright fraud. Any newbie is gonna be lumped in with the rest until proven otherwise.

My feeling is that for any new grading service which happens to be honest and independent of any coin sales to come into the market and actually have a chance for success will have to be a capital investment by a larger well-established organization, e.g., one of the auction houses which would then have to refuse to sell its own slabs, the ANA itself (which got out of the slabbing business years ago), or a financially well-endowed individual who is well-known in numismatics. Such an attempt would need to hire well-respected, well-known, and well-experienced graders and would have to have tons of bucks to back its bid for acceptance. This new slabber would also have to be extremely conservative in its grading, religiously stick to strict stated grading standards, would have to be scrupulously honest (no favoratism for large clients), would have to adopt differing and innovative policies such as no charge or a very low charge for a regrade, an iron-hard cast-in-concrete guarantee of its grades with no loopholes, and above all an attitude that "just maybe the customer IS right.

A boiler room slabber ain't gonna hack it no matter how good a grader s/he might be.

ADD: These slabbers listed will have to go a long way to prove themselves, especially CCGS which already has a bad reputation for overgrading and for the slabber selling his own slabs, a reputation I don't think it could possibly ever overcome. To overcome or even approach the biggies in reputation, they need to start out bid and become even bigger, not small and hope they grow with acceptance. One- or two-person slabbing companies ain't gonna make it. Again, guilty until proven innocent.

And I notice than NONE of the four listed have a money-back guarantee of their grades as do the top four TPGs. I've looked at a lot of these alphabet grading companies' websites (if they have one); only PCGS, NGC, ANACS, and ICG have such a money-back guarantee backing their grades.

Fred
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