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 Posted 02/15/2007  10:18 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Errorcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
is this a new old dollar? it must be!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fine-1797-Mista...ar_W0QQitemZ280081970626QQihZ018QQcategoryZ524QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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02/17/2007 07:51 am
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 Posted 02/15/2007  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tykimeister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't touch it. hint hint.
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 Posted 02/15/2007  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just envision the history this coin has seen in its long life! And one can only imagine how in the world it ever ended up in China. What a find! And looks at all the fools who have placed bids on it.
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 Posted 02/15/2007  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sadly, there is a lot of this going on. I'll bet most of the bids are as real as the coin.
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 Posted 02/15/2007  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AuldFartte to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole ...

... or a five foot Hungarian, either
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 Posted 02/15/2007  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morganman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
We EVER DID NOT make any benefits on the shipping fee





Don't you just love those computer translators......


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 Posted 02/15/2007  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole ...

... or a five foot Hungarian, either




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 Posted 02/15/2007  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brucec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmmmm not sure myself?
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 Posted 02/16/2007  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add longnine009 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wery, wery bootiful. And with "lucky eight" stars to left.

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 Posted 02/16/2007  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How is it that there are four bidders on the same amount bidding on this item?
An ebay rating of (2) and about $36 shipping, plus anothr $6 insurance, from China... No thanks.
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 Posted 02/16/2007  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TSmith3510 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure it's a fake. What I don't understand is how dishonest people can freely commit such a blatant crime and not get busted. After all, when it comes down to it, they're counterfeiters and fraudsters.
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 Posted 02/16/2007  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In China, I understand it is not a crime to copy (counterfeit) a foreign coin or non-Chinese currency. It is considered "artwork". If the same "artist" were to make a rendition of Chinese (PRC) coins or currency and were to be caught, his future would indeed be very bleak and very short.
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 Posted 02/16/2007  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wardtom084 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a sucker coin collected born every minute.
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 Posted 02/17/2007  06:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, regardless if it is legal or not in China, it is NOT legal to sell such coins on ebay and call them authentic, which is what this seller is doing. As far as I can tell, every time I have listed coins for sale, a huge disclaimer comes up and says that selling fakes as anything other than fakes is illegal...

Am I missing something here?
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 Posted 02/17/2007  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope. ebay's just not enforcing its own policy against selling fakes. Law enforcement is so overwhelmed with the thousands (100s of thousands?) of these fakes being purchased by US buyers from China for resale in the US that it's only going after the worst offenders who try to pass them along as authentic once they get into the US. While it's not illegal to possess fake US coins in the US as long as there is no attempt to defraud (there's many who collect fakes), it sure becomes illegal when the owner tries to pass them along as authentic. I've reported to ebay many counterfeit rare US coins probably originating from China being offered on ebay by US sellers. The sellers have been ripped off, so they attempt to mitigate their losses through resale. This is a no-no. In my experience, ebay is running about 50%, pulling only about half of such reported auctions. I have no idea why they let the remaining half continue unless it's just a function of time (difficult to pull 1- and 3-day auctions since they're usually over before ebay gets around to pulling them) and possibly certain high-volume sellers with an "in" at ebay (I won't go further into this subject for this topic).

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 Posted 02/17/2007  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The fakes that come from China, never cease to amaze me.

It is a shame that someone is paying $102.00 + shipping and insurance on a fake coin.
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