http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums...lie334/2.jpghttp://i1058.photobucket.com/albums...lie334/1.jpgI know this is my third post but I feel my first two posts did not accurately give my details to you, pls feel free to delete my first two topics (mods) as I have not figured out how to do this...well this coin is supposedly a r-8 from an online source but I do not trust some single paragraph description completely, i'd appreciate any help as this is not a 1863 token, this token does not have the year 1863 like every other picture I have found.