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You guys know me by now, I get excited by what I see on PCGS photograde. Here is a 1943 that is not only pristine in the details on the reliefs but the obverse is a shimmy of blues, mints, greens and shiny patina near the edges by the rim while the reverse is stone cold silver. I'm about to give you guys a bunch of shots and I need you tell me if I send this get graded as this might be a very unique MS68 worth FMV $5000. Or tell me I have no idea what the heck I am talking about, I WILL NOT be offended, fire away PLEASE I read online in my research and looked at MS68s on NGC and PCGS and they were touting the blues and greens that those coins had. Looks like this to me, no?  Angle for your judging  Add a little light to see that patina and the colors  No wear whatsoever on this coin, I hope the pics show that well  great colors forming   The Reverse - stone cold silver - is it legit?  |
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It looks great.
To get a good idea on grade you need to take the half out of the 2X2.
Use a white peice as a filter on your light source to cut down on glare.
Reshoot the Photos.
These coins are gradded very toughly.
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Hard to tell if it's even MS from these photos. I can see some marks on the coin in the photos, so it's not MS68. To grade that high it would have to be virtually mark-free. The reverse looks AU from the photo, but it's hard to tell because it's in a 2x2 and there is so much glare.
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I will shoot it again tonight out of the 2x2 with a white piece on the light source. I think the 2x2s are creating what you think are imperfections on the coin. It really is pristine, I think!
Okay, photos very late night EST.
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Never count on getting a top pop grade- no matter how great the coin looks. If you think its a value proposition to get it graded if it came back MS-65 or MS-66 then do it. Anything higher is found money.
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Be careful removing coins out of the 2X2, I done it once that the tail end of the staple scratch the coin. Arrg!
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I doubt you will get a MS68 at all. With those pictures the coin could be AU and just certain lighting covering up the bad parts. Send it in and let us know
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I done it once that the tail end of the staple scratch the coin How are you removing it from the 2x2? I usually just puncture the mylar at the edge of the cardboard and gently press the coin out through hole. The Mylar just tears off nice and clean. I don't even mess around with lifting staples. The 2x2 is trash afterwards anyway. |
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I saw a MS67 that had left hand definition present, then again it may have been just a really strong strike, which I am not seeing in this one. It's nice, but not TPG nice.  Edited by oih82w8
06/15/2012 1:28 pm
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i appreciate all of the feedback!
I am going to post one more round of pics out of the 2x2 as stated and if you dont mind taking a peek at the post over the weekend for one last look. I do think its higher than AU details but that is a combo of emotions and my holding the coin and seeing the fields/reliefs in hand.
I am planning on sending in my first ever round of graded coins on the $199 membership/get 8 graded deal that PCGS is offering so this will one of them. I might as well.
thanks again CCF!
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dsfreeworld, a couple of thoughts:
- It's really hard to use PCGS photograde at MS levels for many coins, especially higher MS levels. Their pictures just dont really show marks or hairlines very well.
- You may have a color toned coin but its still unlikely its an MS68.
- An alternative to PCGS photograde: Heritage. Go search through Heritage archives, filter by date, mintmark and grade. They have better pictures and will show you pretty much every single mark that's on that coin. Way better than Photograde IMO, just marginally less convenient.
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donkrx, thanks for the input and I will research that way. Look , I doubt I have an MS68 here but maybe an MS65/66, I mean who knows. I'm going to try and give you guys super tight ups on the fields late tonight. I'll take a few more opinions and than I will send this anyway in a month with the rest and update everyone over the summer. I'll take $0.25 cent wagers on the over/under and set the o/u at MS60
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Wont be MS-68. I see some marks, but really nicely toned
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The reverse high points appear to have rub on them. I'm going to call this one an AU-58. The tone is nice, but won't boost the grade.
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You've got some nice toning!  Definitely more pictures with be helpful. I can't say for sure but my first impression, based more on the reverse since the toning may or may not be obscuring things, is an AU-58. It appears there may be a little bit of wear on Liberty's left leg and some friction in the fields behind Liberty. The reverse appears to have some friction in the fields, eagle's wing, and eagle's breast. |
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Posted 06/15/2012 10:40 am
