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 Posted 06/18/2012  09:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add atropos2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please help me with more information regarding this ancient Greek coin.
According to what I have found, it should be a Corinth Stater of 386-307 BC.
On one side the Pegasus (?) and on the other side Athena ? What could be behind the head of Athena ?

thank you for your help...


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 Posted 06/18/2012  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know just enough about Greek coins to make me dangerous, but there are others on this forum who seem to know enough where I would call them expert. They'll come along shortly and give you the straight skinny. In the mean time, you may want to check out this link and see what you might find on your accord:

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/gree...rinth/i.html

Oh, and btw,
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 Posted 06/18/2012  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the community

The is a beautiful coin. DVC is our resident expert on Greek coins. I'm sure he will be around soon to comment.
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 Posted 06/18/2012  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


....atropos2012,

I love this coin and is on my list, the Pegasus is a cool reverse, nice coin...
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 Posted 06/18/2012  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I've looked at a few Greek coins--so that makes me more of an "informed beginner"
Your coin appears to be as you described. I've seen that symbol behind Athena, but I'm unsure what it is.
There may also be a letter at the base of Athena's neck.
Nice strike of Athena! The pegasus die appears more worn, with a die break below the front legs.
There are numerous copies made of this type, but I haven't seen one that shows die wear like that on the pegasus.
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 Posted 06/18/2012  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
atropos2012 => I am "not" the resident expert ... however, my guess is "dove flying within wreath behind"

...

see another example from jwharper's link

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=> NOTE => although neither of them really look like a dove to me (I think it looks more like a gorgon face?)

... and that my friends, is why I am "not" considered the resident expert

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 Posted 06/18/2012  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm...it's likely the "die break" below the pegasus is the same symbol in Steve's picture above.
That may be a wreath surrounding a face--possibly a Gorgon in the context of Athena.
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As I stated earlier, I have barely enough knowledge about Greek coins and that is why I generally do not collect them. I do find them to be beautiful coins though. This one in particular is a very nice coin. Is there any possibility that this could be a fake? I'm not suggesting that there is, but I'm trying to be better informed about these coins.

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 Posted 06/18/2012  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atropos2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your replies.

Indeed, behind Athena it looks to me like the same Gorgon face that appears on jwharper's link.

In this case, the connection with Athena: a Gorgon face appeared on Athena's Aegis (goat's skin that Athena wore).

I am not an expert able to identify fakes - however the coin was purchased from a reputable London shop I have visited some time ago.

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atropos2012! Hopefully you'll hang around and learn something from these guys. I sure have.

BTW ..... very nice stater. I'm like JW, don't have much knowledge on these Greek coins but they are very beautiful!
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 Posted 06/18/2012  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Below Pegasus is the first letter in the original spelling of the city name Qorinth. After the Archaic period qoppa was dropped from the alphabet (along with digamma and san) so the only place you see them is in the numeral system (Q=90) and as the city name of Corinth.

I don't own the standard reference on these coins but do know there are a lot of minor types available. See:
http://www.corinthstaters.com/
Look at Pegasi 427 BMC 253 & 254 'Aegis' and see if you think it is a match. They give BC 338-330 as a date.
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 Posted 06/18/2012  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
dougsmit, I totally agree ... oh and amazingly, I am positive that I retreived the correct version from jwharper's link ...

=> stevex6 => that'll do pig, that'll do ...


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 Posted 06/19/2012  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atropos2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks again for the information...

btw, the site: http://www.corinthstaters.com/ is amazing !

I never imagined I could find all this info online !

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 Posted 07/22/2012  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmhweb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, As a new member (I joined today the 22nd of July 2012) I was thrilled to see the links and comments about my site corinthstaters.com which has been a labor of love for me over the last 18 months or so.

It does my old heart a power of good to know that others are not only looking at the site but using it and finding it useful.

I have been collecting the "Corinth Colts" for a while and, as there are hundreds of variants, can see no end to my collection which is really limited by my collecting budget!

I look forward to being a member of this forum and raise a glass to say hello to you all.

Thank You One & All,

John
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That's fantastic and welcome to the forum. By all means, come and join us in discussions on ancient coins. Many of us here are interested in ancient Greek coins as well as the Corinth Staters.
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 Posted 07/22/2012  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow--it sounds like you have a few of these Corinth Staters.
I'll look forward to seeing some pictures of your collection.
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