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I found this Large Cent Metal Detecting a few months back and as hard as I try, I cannot get a date on this coin. I know it is toast, but I was wondering if any experts could chime in on a date range. Diameter is 29 MM and the head is a Matron Head. The problem is that there are so many varieties in this series that I cannot narrow it down to a specific date. Given it's size and the fact that there is a line under "Cent" on the Reverse, my guess is between 1816-1835. Based on the head, I think it dates to the later end of that range, but I am unsure. Are there any other clues I can look for to further narrow the date? Please feel free to correct me if any of my above information is incorrect. I also posted a pic of the LC in question along side an 1848 with a smaller diameter of 27.5MM Thanks for looking.     |
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Valued Member
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its from 1808 to 1814 accorrding to "coins" magazine
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1808-1814 is the classic head, I do not think this is a classic head LC. There is no bun in the hair of the Classic head and the nose is much flatter. The LC in question has both a bun in the hair and bigger nose. What makes you lean toward the classic head?
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New Member
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Here is a classic head. Looks much different to me, but I'm no expert.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like the later matron head cents from 1837-1839 if I remember right. These look a little different than the others that came before it.
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07/08/2012 3:33 pm
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Valued Member
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i was just focusing on the differences in hair but now that I look at the face it doesn't match up. cant find that face I'm my magazine though
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New Member
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1837-1839 seems more likely. The only reason I think it is a little older is because my Red Book says the 1837-1839 is 27.5 MM. This one is 29 MM in Diameter on the dot, so I think it dates to just before 1837, but after 1832 based on the profile of Lady Liberty. Found this link and based on the profile of Lady Liberty, I'm thinking 1835. http://collectionconnection.weebly....e-cents.htmlAnyone know any other signs to look for to verify this? |
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the coin I refered to 1s also 29 on the dot
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New Member
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I agree. All Large Cents prior to 1837 are 29MM. This is why I think it is older than 1837, but it is clearly a Matron Head to me.
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Pillar of the Community
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I didn't even know there were size differences in the large cents.  Looking at some of the later coins of the matron head design, I would agree with you. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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It is a Modified Matron Head 1835-1839. All Modified Matron Head Cents had the line under One Cent. 1835-37 had plain cords on hair, 1837(head of 38)-39 had beaded cords.
Yours appears to have beaded cords. The size difference could be caused by the heavy corrosion on the coin.
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07/08/2012 5:10 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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its from 1808 to 1814 Definitely not a Classic Head Large Cent. It is a Matron head but I have no idea what dates this specific variety was made |
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Thanks for the info. That is very helpful. So it comes down to 1835-1837. That helps immensely. I'm curious how you were able to conclude that my LC has beaded cords. I certainly can't make it out, but I'm very curious how you can tell.
Regarding the corrosion, I'm fairly certain even though this coin is heavily corroded, that it is, in fact, 29mm. I'm not positive though.
If the beaded cords can be confirmed, then I will have to go with 1837, but otherwise, based on the size, I gotta go with 1835. At the very least, You have narrowed it down to 2 years for me, so Thanks for all the input.
Any more expert opinions would be much appreciated.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm just guessing the beads are there based on your second photo down. It appears that the back cord has bumps on it but hard to know for sure. You might try turning it in good lighting to see if that is the case. Maybe wet the coin to see if that helps. Here's a photo of one with the beaded cords.  Edited by IndianGoldEagle
07/08/2012 5:43 pm
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