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I'd go w/ Jun 3rd - 1st baseball uniforms worn or Mar 3rd - Congress authorizes smallest US silver coin (3 cent piece) or May 3rd - Most of SF destroyed by fire; 30 die
Baseball, money and TMZ type headlines... three things as American as apple pie :-)
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United States
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Thanks. I can pick a few. How do these sound:
1851 Large Cent- From the year evaporated milk was invented!
1851 Large Cent- From the year Moby Dick published!
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Perhaps, this event would appeal to the most sober of collectors?
June 2 - 1st US alcohol prohibition law enacted (Maine)
Then again, the Moby Dick connection could solicit a "whale of a deal!"
Joking aside, when parting with our coins, tokens, whatever, marketing can be a serious factor!
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Guatemala
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As for the question of why it wasn't an Irish coin, two points.
1. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom.
2. There was no Irish Republic in 1912. The entire island was part of the U.K. then.
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United Kingdom
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iraqandroll,
Northern Ireland (as the rest of Ireland) used UK coinage.
There were no circulating coins issued for Ireland between 1824 and 1927.
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United States
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HEY if a buyer isn't smart enought to figure out it one of many minted in 1912, whos fault is that?
I see nothing wrong with what this seller is doing. I am sure there are collectors out there with
framed sets of 1912 cents and a heading saying Titanic coins, as are the dispaleys of coins from 1861-65,
1876,1976 what the differance?
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There's no deception, no misrepresentation. Not true, there is misrepresentation in the listing of the two coins where he states he has more Titanic memorabilia which implies these two coins are. Ed ANA LM-3175 |
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Hi Ed ... I beg to differ with you on the memorabilia question. Looking online, I see many definitions of what constitutes memorabilia. It seems to be a largely vague and general term for items that stir one's memory of an event. The coins dated 1912 are contemporary to the Titanic disaster, and apparently do conjure up images of that event. Whenever I see a 1906-S dated coin, I think of the San Francisco earthquake.
Memorabilia is some collectible that simply jolts our memory with regard to some event. Also, memorabilia need not even be contemporary to said event, methinks. A 2012 cent with a "Titanic" counterstamp of sorts could even constitute a form of memorabilia.
Other thoughts, anyone?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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There's no deception, no misrepresentation. One small bit. Quote:
Would make an Excellent Gift or Collectable Keepsake to a A Great Ship that sunk 100 years ago this week This is in an auction that ended August 5th The Titanic hit the iceberg April 14th and sank on the 15th. |
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Slowest sinking ship in history if that part were to be true
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United States
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Marketing is marketing. Not good, nor evil. Undereducated buyers will snap up that association with their romantic visions of the Titanic and be forever happy with their purchase.
I don't think coin collectors were the fellow's target audience, but romantics buying a memento of something that touched them emotionally (now, why anyone without relatives on a shipwreck 100 years ago would have an emotional connection to it is beyond me).
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United States
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Did anyone scroll all the way down the page? He gives random histories and cast listings for a movie. Wacky quacky that someone spent 20 dollars.
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United States
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In all fairness, I have a couple of pfennigs from shortly after WWII and when I describe them to people, I do mention that they're from the German financial crash (when marks were so worthless people literally used them as toilet paper, according to my grampa--which is probably an untrue, but certainly colourful and effective, story). It's not a marketing ploy, it's just the first thing that popped into my head when my grampa gave them to me--"holy crispy crap, there was a time when these weren't worth the metal that's in them."
Obviously what this seller is doing is more deliberate than that, but if you apply the psychology in reverse (i.e., if I can see a 1949 German coin and make that connection, wouldn't someone else see a coin contemporary to whatever and make that connection?), it makes sense. The human animal is associated to remember by association, which is why acronyms like DARE and mnemonics like Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sarah (the order in which you're supposed to do a multi-operation mathematical problem) work so well.
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I frequently check to see what was going on in the world when a particular coin was minted. An example ... I dug an 1810 Half Cent. I found out that in 1810 Napolean married Josephine, and Frederick Chopin was born. Coins are closely linked to the events of the day. Was your 1914 Barber dime used to gain admission to the first Baseball game at Wrigley field? It certainly could have been. The "Chifeds" (Chicago Federals) defeated the visiting Kansas City Packers 9-1 on that day, which was April 23rd 1914. I don't find associating dates on coins with history a cheap marketing ploy. I think that numismatics brings history to life for some people. To scoff at somebody with converging interests in history and numismatics, to me, makes no sense. It's just another facet of the hobby. Coins are more than metal discs with designs and lettering embossed on them. They're much more than that. They "should" make you wonder what was going on when they were minted. Folks always make a big deal out of civil war dated coins. Is that just cheezy marketing, or is it OK because coinage was in short supply because of hoarding. Be careful ... you might learn some history. Chance Edited by Chancellor Sutler
08/09/2012 9:32 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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HHMMMMMMM. And idea  Why not start selling coins with the Pompeii disaster date? Coins from the last days of Troy? First Troy that is. And who could say fake if I tried selling coins from the days of the Ark.  And my favorite would be the parting of the Sea by Mosses coins.  |
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