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 Posted 08/10/2012  2:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ray1221 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
How would this grade? Thanks

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 Posted 08/10/2012  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
there are some raised dots on that coin that concern me a little bit even though it doesn't look like a cast copy those raised dots usually do not equal anything good on a Trade dollar
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 Posted 08/10/2012  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is real, it certainly looks to have had a cleaning at some point.
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The coin looks nice except for the raised dots on both sides. It looks like it is silver and the toning appears to be that of a real coin. You might want to send this one in to a TPG. I'm holding off on grading this one because I'm just not sure based on what I see in the photos.
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 Posted 08/10/2012  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ray1221 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the "dots" are some sort of reflection. Here are two alternate views. When were the fakes made? I bought this one about 40 years ago for about $15. What a difference lighting makes. It hard to believe they are the same coin.



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 Posted 08/10/2012  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dots in the first photos have shadows by them which means they are raised. You've got the coin in hand so check with a 10x or better glass and see if there is anything on the coin. One big one above the right arm and under each star directly above that. A couple in the field just to the right of the top of the wheat. A few below the left wing. I don't see these in the other set of photos you posted.

If those raised dots are not really there, the coin looks good and should grade out around AU-55. Does not appear to be cleaned.
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 Posted 08/10/2012  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
uncirculated details...third party grading needed to authenticate!
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 Posted 08/10/2012  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ray1221 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a portion of the picture. The picture was taken with harsh lighting to show scratches and defects. It is a spot light that is about 5 degrees from perpendicular. What look like raised bumps look more like bag marks. It is something like finding faces on Mars.



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Ray I see the bag marks but I'm also seeing those raised bumps. Look above the arm and also to the right and blow the star on the left. I also don't like that ragged edge on see on the top of the arm and all the little bumps on the arm. This one really needs to go to a TPG to be authenticated.
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 Posted 08/10/2012  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Captain Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your Trade dollar looks AU-58 to me
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