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For this date, the line that appears between the 2 and the 8 in 28 (connects them at the bottom of both numbers) is particular to a N variety for that year, or common for all the large date varieties?
You can see the joined 28 at the small/large date comparison pic here:

http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/CoinDe....aspx?s=1654
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The link to coinfacts is showing me a die crack that goes through the 8 and then on to stars 13 and then 12. This is obverse 3 which is used in variety 6 & 7.

There is also mention of "the tail of a 2 shows between bases of 28". This also applies to certain varieties and not all 1828s.

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Newcomb only mentions the die crack for pairings involving the No.2 Obverse. N2,N3,N4 and N5.
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Newcomb only mentions the die crack for pairings involving the No.2 Obverse. N2,N3,N4 and N5.


Interesting... The Wright book disagrees and that's where I got my information. For obverse 2 Wright says " there is a faint crack from the right of 8 to the hair over star 13. Maybe we can get everyone on a conference call and get the right story.
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My mistake...read too fast The line connectingbase of 28 only occurs on N2 and plainly on N5. Both use obv 2. the line does not appear on N3,N4 or N12. I should not read Newcomb when my daughter is vying for attention...
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One of the many reasons I collect only the date set of Large Cents. No going nuts over which is which in varieties.
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lol carl. But that is the fun part!
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My mistake...read too fast The line connectingbase of 28 only occurs on N2 and plainly on N5. Both use obv 2. the line does not appear on N3,N4 or N12. I should not read Newcomb when my daughter is vying for attention...


I really need to buy the Large cent books...

Is there another diagnostic/marker either on the obverse or reverse that would distinguish the N2 or N5?
I believe I have a strong connecting base, but I don't have enough experience with Large cents to be sure.

I would also like to ask another question about another date. In the 1840 series, is there a variety with a 4 punched over the 4 (or another number) in the date. I can see another number, or part of one, sticking out on the right side of the 4.

Thanks for all the help.
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Yes there is an 1840...small date/large date.
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Can you post a pic?
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The coin is at a shop. I'd prefer not to even though I know the owner well. Do you know the N variety for the overdate? I'm sure it's the large over small that I saw.
Is it worth picking up? I could probably get it for about $30. I think I remember it being in F12.
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N2...F12 for $30...I would buy it.
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N-2, 3,4,5 and 12 all use the same obverse, The order of use was 5, 2, 4, 3, and 12. Apparently the line joining the bases of the 2 and 8 only shows on N-5 and N2. If you see the line, telling 2 and 5 apart is easy. Look at the point of the leaf below the last S in STATES. On N-5 it is below the right edge of the S. On N-2 it is midway between the S and the O in OF.
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Thanks Conder. It is an N2. The leaf extends between the S and O (closer to the O).
Thanks.
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