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Canadian $5 Maple Leaf Coins 1988-1997 Value?

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 Posted 08/21/2012  09:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add einhard to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,
I have a collection of 10 $5 Maple Leaf coins, dating from 1988-1997 inclusive. They're in a Royal Canadian Mint presentation box, and I was wondering about their value? More specifically I suppose, would they be approximately the same value in each year, or are some years more valuable than others? Thanks a lot.

Einhard.

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08/21/2012 2:34 pm
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 Posted 08/21/2012  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silver is $29.50 or so per ounce right now. New silver maple leaf coins can be purchased for approx. $31 cdn. per coin, depending on the qty. you buy.
Older SML coins are often purchased for approx. the same price - sometimes a few dollars more on ebay for instance. The 1996 and 1997 years typically sell for a premium due to their much lower mintage.
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 Posted 08/21/2012  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add einhard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
Thanks for the response. So they generally wouldn't fetch much more than speck? Also, how much more would the 1996 and 1997 ones go for? Thanks again.

Oh yeah, they're $5 silver coins, not $1.
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Regular SML's are generally bullion items so the nusimismatic value is usually minimal, but you may be able to get a slight premium for older dates (esp. 96 & 97) in good condition. SML's with privy marks or special designs generally attract better prices.

Do you have a picture of the set? The presentation may add some value and would be interesting to see.


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While many do trade for bullion value some of the older date ones like yours I've seen on ebay recently have been selling for above bullion; saw one yesterday where the auction was up to $56. The prices you can see here http://www.apmex.com/Category/2/Can...__Prior.aspx are probably representative. IE 1996 for $69.99 while 1988 & 1989 are basically bullion.
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 Posted 08/22/2012  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add einhard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey,
Thanks for all the responses. The thing that's kinda me out is the disparity between the prices I see online. For example, after looking around, and getting some advice here I decided that €30 per coin excluding the 1996 and 1997 mints was a decent selling price. Next thing though, I see this page: https://www.thelondoncoincompany.co...e=10&id=3120

on which the 1989 version is being offered for almost £200! How on earth can a company hope to attract bidders for an item when they are charging over 6 times the ostensible market price? Or am I missing something?
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 Posted 08/23/2012  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's because it's been graded at PR69. Ordinary coins wouldn't command that premium.
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Apologies for asking what are probably really noob questions, but what constitutes an ordinary coin? And why is PR69 so special? Is it the year inw hich its minted, the quality of the coin, or a combo of both?

My coins are all mint and uncirculated, and protected in plastic cases. One or two of them are slightly tarnished which presume means the cases aren't entirely air proof. None of them have ever been opened though.
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 Posted 08/23/2012  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add einhard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the set in the presentation case. I sold one today so we're down to nine.

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 Posted 08/27/2012  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add einhard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would anyone be able to tell me why the grade PR69 is so special, and whether my coins would approach such a level? Thanks again. And sorry for pestering with noob questions!!
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 Posted 08/31/2012  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Would anyone be able to tell me why the grade PR69 is so special, and whether my coins would approach such a level? Thanks again. And sorry for pestering with noob questions!!


A grading company determines the coin's condition. MS69 is close to perfect. MS70 is as high as the grading goes.
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Coins are graded on a scale of 1 to 70; the grading scale is called the Sheldon Scale (try a search to find sites that discuss the scale in depth). In short, a grade of "1" is assigned to a coin that is extremely worn and has almost no detail of its original design left. Conversely, a grade of "70" is used for a coin that shows no signs of wear and is without any type of surface imperfection (e.g., scratches or dings). The grades from 60 to 70 are reserved for coins that are in "mint state" or "uncirculated." The grades below 60 are used for coins that have been in circulation or have experienced some loss of metal from being handled.

In VERY general terms, coins struck for circulation are less common in higher grades than they are in lower grades. The opposite is true for most modern coins struck specifically for collectors as they are specially packaged at their respective mint to protect them from the typical damage that occurs from touching/handling them.

Because of this special handling, many modern coins receive grades of "MS-69" or "Proof 69" -- it is actually often the most common grade assigned for many modern issues by grading services such as PCGS and NGC. Even though they are not scarce, collectors often do pay a bit more for "69" coins because they represent very nice examples of the coin and are thus desirable.

It's very likely your coins were packaged outside of the Royal Canadian Mint by a third-party (based on the appearance of the case). The coins may have picked up a few stray marks while being handled to put them in the capsules. From the photos you've provided, it's impossible to estimate the grades your coins would receive from one of the grading services -- even just a few small marks can drop a coin's grade a point or two.

The PF-69 coin you referenced was a one-year type to mark the SML's 10th anniversary; it was struck as a Proof coin which is a different method of striking coins vs. the standard method used for the coins in your set. The '89 Proof was also struck in smaller numbers vs. the standard Maple Leaf coins.

Hope this helps a bit!



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 Posted 09/10/2012  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add einhard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies all.
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