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Has the US mint continued to produce Pt coins, Crow? I see pics of them on the PM seller web sites I visit but never see a date after 2008.
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They do still produce PT coins, at least the 1 ounce anyway as the new 2012 is on the mint site set for release next week.
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I have a single one ounce coin made of palladium... it is attractive enough but I won't be heavily investing in the stuff so I voted neutral.
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As basebal21 said, they still produce the 1 oz, but it doesn't look like any fractionals have been made since 2008.
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My biggest concern is over liquidity. I don't think most places would give you its full value. It's just not in heavy investor demand (I don't think). The one and only time I had the money or inclination to buy one from my "place" they didn't have any. And my "place" is pretty huge in this business so that tells me something about the demand it doesn't get. They hold platinum whenever they can grab it, but palladium is just rare to see there. (My Two Cents.) It's just putting your money to sleep, in my opinion. It's meant to be used in industry, not lying around above ground without any proper use.
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I've seen the Palladium Bullion that Russia produced a time or two at my local store. It always goes fast. Usually not there the next day. I don't know if there is that much demand for it or if people buy it because of the novelty.
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It's just putting your money to sleep, in my opinion. It's meant to be used in industry, not lying around above ground without any proper use.


Doesn't the same reasoning apply to platinum? To me, that is what makes Pd and Pt precious and worth holding. As someone who plans to buy and hold for 10's of years, it's hard for me to imagine a world where these metals aren't in high demand.
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Doesn't the same reasoning apply to platinum?


And silver. Thats pretty much what the definition of a precious metal is. The demand helps drive its value. Its like the difference between oil and natural gas. 1 is almost 100 dollars a barrel while the other is 2 bucks because no one needs that much of it yet. Personally the industrial demand of palladium just makes it more appealing.
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Speaking of nat gas... the USA has a HUGE supply of this fuel and it is possible to compress the stuff into a liquid (LNG) and use it to fuel our cars and trucks. We're missing a HUGE bet by not doing this, especially in the cities.
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Agreed. NG cars should be what were working on not electric cars which would just require more coal to be burned
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Ed, does that have more potential than converting the methane (NG) to longer chain hydrocarbons?
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Ed, does that have more potential than converting the methane (NG) to longer chain hydrocarbons?

I think so. The additional processing, probably via the Fischer-Tropsch process, requires energy and time to create the longer chain hydrocarbons. Nat gas burns very cleanly, so is environmentally friendly and efficient.
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