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Should The RCM Be Promoting Private Enterprise On Coins ?

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 Posted 09/03/2012  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petersun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coins such as Navy, War 1812, and Terry Fox are sonmetimes a good format of education, better than brain washing. (In China or North Korea, instead of putting historical events onto coins, nationalism education is done every morning by singing national anthem and listening to the radio annoncing historical heros, etc.
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There's only one problem with that, though. Canada wasn't Canada in 1812. It was still a British colony, so patriotic to who, exactly?
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There's only one problem with that, though. Canada wasn't Canada in 1812. It was still a British colony, so patriotic to who, exactly?

Seems to me that the point is: without the brave pople who fought for Upper Canada and other British Colonies, the border at latitude 49 would not be there. Canada would not be, or at least not as big as right now without these who fought for Britain. Many people who fought in this war were first nations.
Therefore, it is generally the border that was important, even for today.
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Well, I like circulation, NCLTs AND errors! All for different reasons. I'm also a fan of the 49th parallel!
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Canada wasn't Canada in 1812. It was still a British colony, so patriotic to who, exactly?


The Dominion didn't exist. But, it was called Upper and Lower Canada, then the Province of Canada, and then the Dominion of Canada.

There were UC circulating copper tokens celebrating Sir Isaac Brock, officially "The Hero of Upper Canada". One design is recreated: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/fine-...-prod1520002

"The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America," (Declaration of Independence). Notice "united" not "United"

The USA started as weak confederation of 13 colonies acting more like individual countries than a strong central government nation. So, it wasn't the USA?





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I'm just saying that there are anachronisms everywhere and we're viewing past dealings with a modern mindset. I mean, define "Europe", it's not even a continent/separate land mass. Borders are imaginary lines. Just look at the eastern provinces and most of the western United States - they look like last-minute homework by a cartographer - just boxes and straight lines and they have very little to do with natural boundaries like mountain chains and rivers (with some exceptions). Coins can have images of "heroes", but they never actually explain any of the history, is what I'm saying.
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The most ironic thing about The War of 1812:

It DESTROYED the militia myth in the USA. They realized they needed a standing army. Their militia invasions were mostly a complete joke, and they couldn't defend Washington DC.

It CREATED the militia myth in Canada. Why did we need a standing army when our militia beat the fearsome USA? The Canadian militia was allowed to take credit, when in fact it was mostly the British.

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