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I have spent lots of time the past week checking these out as I mentioned ... and the gold denomination dies were still being messed up in 1858. And ... I've found 2 coins that appear to have actual gold flecks, apparently deposited from those dies. Check out the reverse of this one. It has design elements of the gold coins on the reverse, and what appears to be some gold flecks embedded. It's ending in a few minutes, but may end up relisted. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1858-S-L-FL...em25752e28abProof positive (pic below)that whatever was afoot in 1857, was stil problematic in 1858. Even in pretty deplorable condition, the entire left wing of the eagle on the reverse of a 20 dollar gold piece is struck across this one, not once, but 4 times, and the design continues across the eagle's tailfeathers. The LIBERTY you can see across the eagle's tail, running left to right, is that of an 1857 braided hair Half Cent....and the FE is dated 1858. Chance  Edited by Chancellor Sutler
09/11/2012 12:58 am
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Hmm. Maybe they used copper planchets to clean the dies and then tossed them back in the bin.
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I've also found a seated half with die impressions from gold issue .. and a small piece of gold embedded.
To add to the FEC picrured ... that's the eye of the eagle on a double eagle you see in the wing. The neck line is visible as well. Take your curser, place it on the eagle's eye, and move it directly west ... about halfwau to the "N" you'll find the end of the eagle's bill.
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09/12/2012 7:44 pm
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Please post an image of the half with the clash from the gold die.
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Here is it ... and it was hard to find it again. The speck of gold is at the base of liberty's "staff", and viewed at 400 percent magnification, it looks exactly like a letter "R" from the "LIBERTY" on the one dollar gold type 3 obverse. If there had been a flaw in a gold planchet, it could easily have left the die filled in such a tiny area. Now ... how this half ends up anywhere near that die...is anybody's guess. That's the mystery. Starting in 1859, these problems and anomallies are far less common. The coinage of 1857 and 1858 was a mess. Chance  Edited by Chancellor Sutler
09/14/2012 03:57 am
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Chance, thanks for sharing.
Where are you seeing the R on the Half Dollar? The yellow stuff, it looks like glue from a sticker or tape that was on the coin. It looks as though the sticker, tape or glue was strong as it lifted grime from the coin in a rectangular shape. It begins below the 10th star, goes through Liberty's wrist, and above Liberty's breasts. The same discoloration is seen at her ankle, and under the ribbon on the shield.
Will play with photoshop tomorrow on that 1858 tomorrow. Keep in mind that the FEC hammer and anvil dies were in different positions relative to the 25c, 50c and $20 clashes. That is why you see the obverse of the 25c, 50c and $20 on the obverse of the FEC. The FEC obverse was in the anvil, where as the 25c, 50c and $20 obverses were placed in the hammer position.
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I reallize there's tape residue on the obverse of this half, but that one spot is clearly a different color. When you enlarge this, you will also be able to pick up the dot to the right of the "R" and vertical feathers and "poms" in the headress.
This isn't reversed, and frequently you will see details from both obverse and reverse on the same side of the coin.
Chance
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I see nothing that would suggest this half was struck with clashed dies.
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