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I recently saw this at a coin store and I was wondering if anyone had any knowledge on it. The guy said it's worth 1000 bucks and is some sort of medieval coin. I have a few medieval coins and they look nothing compared to this coin. If I had to guess, I would say this is fake but maybe I'm wrong. He let me take pictures of it but they didn't turn out too well, anyway let me know what you think and enjoy a very interesting coin!   |
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Mexico
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Agreed...some rare dates that are extremely well preserved and fetch a pretty penny, but coin is NOT medieval.
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United States
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It's the Gothic crown of queen Victoria, UK. The date is on the obreverse in lower case Roman numerals, bottom image, about 11 - 10 o'clock.
Looks like 1847 (mdcccxlvii).
While it's a beautiful and sought after coin, $1000 is a definite overkill.
Edit: A crown, by the way, has a face value of 5 shillings.
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09/23/2012 4:24 pm
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United States
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Don't ever go back to that coin store. The guy knows nothing about numismatics.
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United States
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The guy said it's worth 1000 bucks and is some sort of medieval coin. Woah...that's too much!  |
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After this, id rather buy at a Chinese flea market then this store.
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This is a "Gothic florin"; relatively common. The date, in Roman numerals, is on the obverse, behind the queen's shoulder. They were struck almost every year form 1851 to 1887. The florin design was copied from the crown design (see below) when the original 1849 florin design provoked public outrage by omitting "Dei Gratia" or any abbreviation thereof. Unless it's a scarce date, $1000 is a very optimistic price. This is a "Gothic crown". They were only struck in one year, 1847 (with some scarce restrikes in 1853). The date, in Roman numerals, is on the reverse, above-right of the Scottish shield. They were only struck in proof, not for circulation, though some wound up being circulated anyway. $1000 is a very reasonable price for an impaired proof (and this one looks like it has old polishing). Though it's a little hard to tell from the pics, the coin is question is actually a Gothic crown. Assuming it's genuine, $1000 is a reasonable price. I'd pay that for one if I ever saw one that cheap. Never have, here in Australia. But if the guy in the coin store actually was as vague as you reported about it being "some sort of medieval coin", then yes, I'd suspect it was a reproduction. If he doesn't know enough to know this is a Gothic crown - one of the most sought-after British coins - then he doesn't know how to spot a fake one. The pics certainly aren't good enough to tell one way or the other.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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First off, thanks for all the comments! Second off, after doing some research I frequently saw the word Gothic, and after thinking about it I do believe the store owner did mention it was a "Gothic" and not a medieval coin. I think I wrongly associated the two terms together. That being said, the store owner wasn't trying to sell me the coin per say, he just said he had some coins that he bought that he was going to send off to get graded, this was one of the coins. I asked him how much he would sell it for, and he said he bought it for 600 and he'd sell it for around 1000. He's a super honest guy and I've bought numerous rare coins for way under their value. I just thought I'd put the coin up here to get different peoples opinions. Does anyone have an exact weight for the coin? I've found 28.2759 g on one site, then 28.204 g on another, then 28.35 grams on a third. Could the weight of the coin be different or should it all be spot on? Also, any ideas as to further confirm if the coin is a fake or not? Thanks!
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I've found 28.2759 g on one site, then 28.204 g on another, then 28.35 grams on a third. Could the weight of the coin be different or should it all be spot on? the differences in weight, i.e. from tenths to a hundredth of a gram, would be likely due to the different digital weigher models each spot is using, or repeatability of the digital weigher when electronics didnt have the 30second time to stabilize after being switched on, the temperature variants when weight was taken as well as placement of the coin on the weighing platform. Reproductions or fakes usually differ more than 1 gram. wether its genuine or a reproduction its still a great looking coin  Edited by Nic
09/25/2012 10:50 pm
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