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Aww, Is There Anything More Sweet Than A King And His Camel?

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Awwww, is there anything more sweet than a King and his camel?

M.Aemilius Scaurus AR-Denarius
58 BC
Weight: 3.8 grams

Obverse: King Aretas of Nabataea kneeling in supplication, beside camel, giving an olive branch. M SCAVR / AED CVR above, S C in r. field

Reverse: Jupitur in quadriga l., scorpion below horses. PHVPSAE/ AED CVR above horses, CAPTV in r. field and in ex. C HVPAE COS/PREIVER

Reference: S-379 Var., Craw 422
Other: A very busy little coin ... A-VF

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Aretas III was king of the Nabataean kingdom ... During his reign, he extended his kingdom to cover what now forms the northern area of Jordan, the south of Syria, and part of Saudi Arabia. Probably the greatest of Aretas' conquests was that of Damascus, which secured his country's place as a serious political power of its time. Nabataea reached its greatest territorial extent under Aretas' leadership.


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Damascus straddled the primary commercial route from the Mediterranean Sea to India and the Middle East. In taking the city from the loosening grip of the Seleucid Empire in 85 BCE, Aretas III brought the Nabataeans from a backward nomadic tribe to a minor Eurasian power.


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Aretas advanced towards Jerusalem at the head of 50,000 men, besieging the city for several months. Eventually, Aristobulus bribed Marcus Aemilius Scaurus, deputy of the Roman general Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus. Scaurus ordered Aretas to withdraw his army, which then suffered a crushing defeat at the hands of Aristobulus on the journey back to Nabatea.


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Despite the compliance of Aretas, in 62 BCE Scaurus marched on Petra. However, a combination of the rough terrain and low supplies, obliged Scaurus seek the aid of Hyrcanus, now High Priest (not king) of Judea, who sent Antipater to barter for peace with Aretas. The siege was lifted in exchange for several hundred talents of silver (to Scaurus himself) and recognition of Roman supremacy over Nabatea. Aretas would retain all Nabataean territory and possessions, becoming a vassal of the Roman Empire.
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You have a nack finding really nice coins, this one is a beauty congrats.
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Hey, thanks echizento!! ...



yah, I really do tend to try and search-out the really unique and cool looking coins (oh, and just in case you haven't noticed yet => they "usually" have an animal on them!! => ya gotta love the animal coins!!)

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Where did you locate this beautiful specimen?
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that is NICE.
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Thanks chrsmat71 ... yah, I know => man, this coin is all that and several bags of chips and even some homemade dip!


FinanceGuru => we meet again ... ummmm, I have several sources, but vcoins and numismall are two pretty rockin' locations to go wild and spend money like a drunken sailor with a fist full o' silver denarius' ...

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Pretty nice!
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Giving someone an olive branch in some cultures means that you are making peace with someone or forgiving another person for doing something bad to you. It also indicates implied peace and success in Ancient Greece while it served as an offering to strive for peace during a war in the Roman age. The giving of olive branch also signifies the branch brought by the dove to Noah after the Great Flood which means that peace was again on earth.

... man, everything about these coins is interesting, no?
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No comments from the regular peanut gallery? ... are you guys bored of my stuff, or what?



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Wow that's a beautiful looking coin. I believe that the Nabataeans were pagan though, so would the olive branch symbolism really stem from the Old Testament? Although, obviously it's quite likely that there were some cultural and religious sharing in the region. I was in Petra...absolutely out of this world. Would recommend it to anyone. While I was there, a friend found an arrow head which he's managed to date to ancient times. I bought a few coins which I'm pretty sure are fake, but they were so cheap I said I'd take the risk. Also, they're terribly worn and dirty, so I figured if someone was gonna go to the trouble of faking a coin, they'd do something a bit more up-market. I might upload them here, get some opinions.
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http://www.forumancientcoins.com/do...th/voc2.html
As a historical specimen it is hard to get better than this IMHO. I explain a bit of it on my page linked above but my specimen shown below is missing due to centering one of the legend details that makes the coin interesting. The camel side is unusual because it honors the action of the issuing official himself rather than that of an ancestor. This is just a little self serving by Republican standards but not as bad as Caesar who a short time later would place his portrait on coins. Since the coin was a joint issue by two officials and each got one side, the reverse official placed his name at the top and his ancestor's name at the bottom making it extra clear that he was not blowing his own horn like the guy on the other side. My coin's small flan loses the first initial of both issuer and ancestor so the point is lost but your coin has the C and P quite clearly. This is a really neat Republican type for many reasons.


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Very nice coin. I never saw one of those before.
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Awesome coin Steve.......love these Republican coins, they have those 16 legs going...
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Thanks guys ...

=> Oh, and thanks a lot dougsmit for your coin-link and for your super-knowledge!!

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Another nice addition Steve.
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