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Spectacular condition, daltonista. How would such pieces even have survived in these states of preservation? I'd expect them to be heavily worn from use during a period of extreme shortage of circulating medium.
I've seen it asserted that the large quantities of German "notgeld" from the 1920s which survive in high grade were in large part printed after the fact, more or less as souvenirs.
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Those silver tokens are stunning! Quote: I'd expect them to be heavily worn from use during a period of extreme shortage of circulating medium. The issue of private tokens was made illegal by an Act of Parliament in 1817, following the issue of the new silver coinage the previous year, so these coins should only have been in circulation for a maximum of six years. I imagine that many German 'notgeld' banknotes saw very little circulation as galloping inflation reduced their value so rapldly that many were never issued and others were just put aside as souvenirs.
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Quote: Just showing off my matching pair of pretty silver Regency Period tokens from Hampshire... Outstanding! 
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Thank you all for the compliments on my little Hampshire tokens! Just wanted to add to NumisEd's comment in resonse to Publius's query...
Quote: How would such pieces even have survived in these states of preservation? Actually, upon reflection, the question answers itself in a way: For the most part, they didn't survive!
To elaborate, let's theorize that the two examples shown above would fit comfortably into the top 3% of any condition census of the more common -- or perhaps "less rare"? -- silver issues of the Regency Era Hampshire County Council. If that estimate holds, it would mean that for each of these to turn up in a collection like mine, there were 97 others that got culled out at some point over the last 210 years.
Of course, the affirmation of my theory shows up in the comments from fellow numismatists, as in the three above: "stunning," spectacular," and "outstanding." As I've noted before, we work at it...
"If everything seems to be under control, you're just not going fast enough." --- Mario Andretti
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It seems to me that most of the pieces issued would have circulated quite heavily. So, even nicer specimens picked out when they began to go into the melting pots after the reappearance of regal silver coinage around 1818 would have shown at least moderate wear. This leads me to suppose those which survive in particularly high grades of preservation (as pictured) must have been taken from circulation early on, by persons of means (that is, who didn't have to spend their money as quick as they got it) as curiosities or "articles de vertu" — unless indeed they were held back by the issuers themselves, as mementoes, or possibly even on the thought that they might be required as evidence in legal proceedings.
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This week one of the recent Deane II auction items arrived. This is Warwickshire DH-257 Remains of Cathedral, Coventry. Has a very sharp strike and was bronzed, it has an interesting lamination to the left of the Leopard on the reverse.  
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Beautiful! 
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Another stunner, westcoin! It reminds me that I've been meaning to do some heraldry research to figure out how elephants came to be associated with Coventry...

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The Romans used a war elephant in their invasion of Britain, although I do not know if Coventry was involved in this fight, due to their location. "Famously, the Romans used a war elephant in the invasion of Britain, one ancient writer recording that "Caesar had one large elephant, which was equipped with armor and carried archers and slingers in its tower. When this unknown creature entered the river, the Britons and their horses fled and the Roman army crossed over," https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_war_elephants
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My thanks to Hondo and Kipster for the links! We've all learned something new today... 
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Stole this from Foreign Shores Really nice UNC 1932 George V .500 Silver Halfcrown . At this grade these are very scarce and always fair well in auctions. Normal warning with my pics they hardly ever show the coin how it looks in the hand as in the lustre seems to get lost somewhere as its visible through the lens just doesn't appear in the pics.   
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That half crown is a real beauty, zookeeperz!
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2023 Charles III Silver Britannia 6 coin Proof Set. Includes: 2 pounds (1 ounce, 38.61 mm), 1 pound (0.5 ounce), 50 pence (1/4 ounce), 20 pence (1/10 ounce), 10 pence (1/20 ounce) and 5 pence (1/40 ounce, 0.8 g, 8 mm). Limited to 950 sets, with only the 2 pound being available individually. All coins feature the effigy of Charles III on the obverse and Britannia on the reverse. The image of Britannia was designed by Jonathan Olliffe. This image features the warrior atop a chariot being pulled by two horses. She holds a shield which details the Union Jack flag, holds a trident and dons her infamous helmet. I had great difficulty in photographing this set and the coins included, as I did not want to remove them from their capsules.    
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Lovely stuff, Hondo!
Here's one from the Hanover limb of his family tree ----


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Edited by daltonista 07/24/2023 3:41 pm
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