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My latest Penny in the collection.   |
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My latest Penny in the collection. Very nice!  |
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I just can't stop buying creamy halfcrowns. These are stunners   Charles I halfcrown 1635/1636 (Crown Mintmark) Will return if its fake - but this guaranteed to be real and it looks real - double strike and all. |
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A gorgeous coin of Queen Anne   Slightly better than fair condition, a steal at what I paid for it (About £40) 1709 Anne Half crown (Post Union). |
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Nice circulation cameo, Princetane!
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Excellent adds! |
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Pardon my ignorance - what is a circulation cameo?
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"Circulation cameo" is an unofficial term for the effect of dark patination in the fields and light wear on the high points so that the portrait and other detail stand out from the background.
I think the term was created only a few years ago on another coin forum.
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To go with the lovely Anne posted earlier here is a very well worn shilling of William III "bargain bin" pickup. Not in the best of shape but historically a very important coin as these were the first milled silver coins to be struck in England! (1697) William III. Shilling, 3rd bust type London mint (no letter below bust, no plumes) Sp. 3505, KM 497.1, AG details/cleaned/scratches. Reverse almost completely worn smooth!   Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Edited by paralyse
02/10/2020 11:48 pm
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Nice coin for the history, but where did you get the idea that these were the first milled coins struck in England? We switched entirely to milled coinage in Charles II reign, around 40 years before William III coins. We had tinkered with the same during Oliver Cromwell's time a little earlier, but the first milled coins in circulation were in Elizabeth I's reign another 100 years earlier. (Ok they were produced by a Frenchman - Eloye Mestrelle - but it was at the Tower mint in London.) Here is a Milled Lizzie Sixpence from that era:   |
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I agree, but the original poster with the William Shilling had a point and may have got confused with the 1696 - 1699 great recoinage. By the way I love your Eloi Mestrel 6d there - stunning piece and the twist in the story the British moneyers got annoyed with him, he lost his job and around 1579 Eloi was hanged for counterfeiting coins! My Charles I Halfcrown is clearly a hammered piece, but at the time a Nicolas Briot (Also French) was making milled coins for Charles as well. The first truly milled UK coins were the patterns for Oliver Cromwell from 1658 and Thomas Simon the maker of those was passed over in 1662 for Jan Roettiers a Dutchman for the new milled coinage of Charles II (Simon's Petition crown is magnificient).   Just have to show that beauty again! Milled coins were rolled out between 1662 and 1670 with Guineas, Crowns and Shillings going first and the last I think were Pennies and coins to 4d. Copper farthings and Halfpence followed in 1672. In 1696, Sir Isaac Newton was commissioned by William III to organise a massive recoinage in England to replace the thousands of worn and clipped coins in circulation and most of the coins being used were dated from the 1550s through to the 1660s hammered coins of Charles II, many were clipped and in bad shape (it seemed post 1662 milled coins were not fully saturated). Over four years, several branch mints were opened up and the full range of coins from guineas down to pennies were minted and thus by 1700, the scourge of 16th century clipped coins were gone. The shilling he showed was one of them. It was the last great recoinage until 1816, when milled coins were obselete and gave way to perfectly round steam press made coins that were legal tender through to 1971! Edited by Princetane
02/11/2020 05:01 am
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Nice additions! |
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This is the first year of the Charles II milled Half Crowns and a pretty nice example too:   |
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This is the first year of the Charles II milled Half Crowns and a pretty nice example too: Very nice! |
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