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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: The news is that the Exchange is under 4 FEET of water. Something that has been puzzling me is, "Why is the NYSE closed?". After 9/11/01, a great deal of hoopla was made about having 2 backup sites for the NYSE so that a NYC disaster could not close the NYSE. Supposedly, billions of dollars were spent on this and a lot of time as well to ensure that these backup systems were effective and reliable. So... what happened to them? Why did they not come on-line and keep the NYSE open and operating? Do these sites even exist or was their existence merely a claim made to assuage the fear of investors? If so, it seems that the lie has been put to these claims... BIG-TIME.
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Bedrock of the Community
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It was closed most likely to prevent a massive sell off from initial panic aside from the fact it was being flooded. My guess would be the backups are for long term damage to the NYSE site, if its only a day or two theyll just close and reopen shortly.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2168 Posts |
Being here in one of the hardest hit states many do not even have internet service, phone electric or at least didn't for the first few days. PM purchases for the common person here is not a priority. While not affected as greatly as many others cash on hand has been a priority as well as food and water on hand. Those that have not prepared in the past should have their eyes opened. This was not evem the worst that could happem and look at the chaos. Gas in the car and water in the bathtub always are priorities the gas lines are like a throwback from the 70s and cash only at many. Technology is great when working when it isn't hard cash PMs and items on hand are what is needed. Plastic has been a problem as well
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Bedrock of the Community
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Have you seen any improvements in the last few days or still trying to pick up the pieces from the flooding?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1200 Posts |
I know people who are 55 miles north of NYC in the Hudson Valley (Harriman, NY). They weren't hard-hit by direct storm damage, but they've had no power for 7 days now and it's not supposed to be back on for another 9 or 10 days.
Outlying areas that weren't directly hit are still heavily impacted by indirect problems. In many places, the gas stations have full storage tanks and no power to pump it with while other areas have power but ran out of gas long ago. The net effect is a widespread gas shortage that's really lousing everything up, and it's just staying that way.
Nothing is happening very quickly. The biggest problem seems to be the slow speed of getting power restored and of recovery efforts overall.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3670 Posts |
I could not imagine being minus power for multi weeks in the cooling fall....
I noticed gas prices are falling as we'll- via 3.14 per gallon my last fill up a two days back....
This is either a direct connect to oil falling or maybe the big button pushers realizing these people in this storm path can't deal with off the chart gas prices to boot....
My prayers with them all- cruel unforgiving world. It always has been always will be....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2168 Posts |
I will write tomorrow when I can go on a computer to type. It is by far the worst damage I have seen first hand in my life. I am in central NJ away from the shore areas in an area that normally has floods from storms/hurricanes. This time here it was more winds than rain. I guess it is also more impacting on me e I have been to all the little shore towns and they are completely destroyed. Most aren't just houses directly on the ocean. NJ beaches are or were quite wide and wat a shame. Power and gas issues while improving still abound
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2168 Posts |
Well the effects of Sandy are still pretty bad here in NJ. We are expecting a another storm on Wednesday. Many people are not only out of power, they are stranded where they are. Gas is in short supply in the northern portion of the state and not expected to recify today. It seems that the odd/even still has great lines. My thoughts are that we all MUST be PREPARED. First I would if I had it all to do over, not be living here in NJ due to its densely populated areas. Aside from that most nessary items are in short supply. Many can't even get out due to trees, poles and power lines being down. I am in a small town and have been lucky and only had 2 days without power. A tree fell in front of my house across the street, again lucky the town did come by and chip it the day after the storm. I live near a hospital and the tree was in front of a fire hydrant. These circumstances I'm sure lead to its removal so quickly. Many poles, trees etc are in the streets around me just not total blocking. I have lived here all my life and while some towns nearby usually are flooded, that is about the worst here for my entire life. There are preparers and those people, while having difficult times, at least have food/water and other necessary items. Cash (what some what to have gone) of course is necessary. Most gas stations only are taking it. Some smaller stores as well. There were quite a few difficulties with cell service, phones that are cable or fios all out. I have a true hard line phone with one of those corded phones. Well, it worked! I had to call Verizon since the line had been detached from the house, all the idiot on the phone did was sing the praises of how great Fios is! Well those phones did not work! Nor did the cordless. She was making me sick. I told her that if I had Fios, I wouldn't be talking to her because the neighbors as well as family members did not. Cell service was very sparse especially in the shore areas. Text, at times worked. Most of the cell issues seem to have been fixed. There are also short supplies of food in the grocery stores near me and we were NOT really that badly hit. I can imagine what it is like in the truly hardest hit areas. I have been in contact with a friend at the shore (lives inland though) Beach areas are just not there any more for the most part in the central NJ beach areas Sandy Hook south to Seaside Park if looking at a map. Generators are great for a short outage. This has past that. If it were me and I could solar backup is the way to go. Depending on a fuel that you cannot just go pick off the ground doesn't work all the time as many are finding out. Gas shortages and even natural gas turned off in some places. Plus all are flamable. A friend of mine had CO detectors going off and the unit was outside. I did say it should be at least 20-30 ft from the house but the weather so windy and rainy they kept it closer to the house. Even though all windows were covered still came in so they turned off. I know I am rambling but typing here is not quite as easy for order as listing on paper and looking at it and adding order. Well, I will keep you updated on the storm as I can. As for the stock market being closed. That whole area of NYC was under water and no power. I know there were 'plans ' to keep it going no matter what and I think at first they were going to do the electronic trading but decided against that. With such chaos, it probably was for the best. The internet was not working well either. Electronics work well when working but when they don't complete mess. Paper backup at least might be a good idea. Look at even our medical records on the computers/internet. Before they used to be just in our dr. office for the most part. Technology is great but a double edge sword.
We should all learn to be prepared.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1590 Posts |
God Bless you Angel, Our thoughts and Prayers are with you and yours.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
863 Posts |
Luckly I live an hour north of the city. It seems just out of the range of the storm. My town didnt even lose power, Although many houses in the immediata area did lose power for a few days. t hasbeen over a week since the storm andpeople in monroe, harriman are still without power. This is about 25 min south of me. Gas supplies are still short but gas is finally begining to trickle back into the area.
The new news is that a noreaster is supposed to hit on wednesday. In this area and the area that was hardest hit by the storm it is supposed to be cold and rainy. the snow line ends about an hour north. I feel so sorry for those who are still without power and some who have even lost their house. I hpe everyone is safe.
It is times like these that show the importance of prepping for a disaster. It shows us how easy it is for us as humans to becom so disorinted that it is difficult to survive. PMs are not the only thing needed, guns eiter, because they do little good without food water, and a way to stay warm.
Good luck to all who have been affected by the storm.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4008 Posts |
Quote: It was closed most likely to prevent a massive sell off from initial panic aside from the fact it was being flooded. My guess would be the backups are for long term damage to the NYSE site, if its only a day or two theyll just close and reopen shortly. But that's just it, BB. If, after having made the NYSE impervious to shutdown, this was the perfect opportunity to puff out their chests, slam a fist on the desk, and yell, "WE"RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS!". But, did they do that? Noooo... they fell flat on their butts just as if they did not have any backup systems. Maybe they should have saved the time, money, and effort if they aren't gonna use them when "the storm of the century" hits. What are they waiting for, the storm of the millennium? Shrug. Quote: God Bless you Angel, Our thoughts and Prayers are with you and yours. Amen to that, Bro! 
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Quote: But that's just it, BB. If, after having made the NYSE impervious to shutdown, this was the perfect opportunity to puff out their chests, slam a fist on the desk, and yell, "WE"RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS!". But, did they do that? Noooo... they fell flat on their butts just as if they did not have any backup systems. Maybe they should have saved the time, money, and effort if they aren't gonna use them when "the storm of the century" hits. What are they waiting for, the storm of the millennium? Shrug.
All the backup systems are probably at area 51  
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36844 Posts |
The aftermath of Sandy probably won't affect the market much, but the results of the Presidential Election sure will.
Edited by IndianGoldEagle 11/05/2012 7:10 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2168 Posts |
Thank you for all the prayers and nice thoughts. It is cold here tonight and there are about 1 million (Households total all states) still without power. They along with those losing all need prayers and help. Supposedly FEMA is paying for all or most losses. What ever that means. I don't apply for that not much in actual loss. We shall see how that actually unfolds. A friend had quite a bit of losses from Irene and nothng in $$ just tons of paperwork Not that I think the govt should but they promise and make You think it
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: after having made the NYSE impervious to shutdown, this was the perfect opportunity to puff out their chests, slam a fist on the desk, and yell, "WE"RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS!". But, did they do that? Noooo More just a practical reason than anything. Your gonna lose a day or two getting the traders there all set up, by the time they were set up itd be time to pack up and come back to NY. Had 9/11 hit that it would have been down for weeks and months with no backup, the backups for long term shutdowns imo. And definitely thoughts and prayers to everyone affected by the storm
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