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 Posted 11/13/2012  2:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add paul g to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello again,

I have come across another coin I cannot identify-I found one extremely similar online, but the side which has four separate markings was slightly different.

Anyone know what this is?

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 Posted 11/13/2012  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aiglet7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin appears to be a tong bao cash coin from the Qing Dynasty. Emperor Gao Zong ruled under the reign title Qian Long from 1736 to 1795. The coin, would have been cast at the Board of Works mint in Peking (Beijing), and should have a diameter of 26 mm and a weight of approx. 5.3 grams.
This link is an excellent one for helping to identify Imperial Chinese coins:-

http://primaltrek.com/chinesecoins....ynasty_coins
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Thank you for that, interesting reading, I will delve a little deeper!

I have two of these, and as you might be able to make out from the picture, one is very noticeably bigger. Curiously, it is also slightly lighter. Given what I read (most briefly) that there was a high incidence of copies at the time, could one of these be such?

Or could it be the case, as was also written, that the disparity between minting over the years resulted in these two coins being slightly different in dimensions? Perhaps, given my total absence of Chinese language, these were simply minted in different years or at a different location?


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 Posted 11/14/2012  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The top coin was actually cast in the Revenue mint, not the Works mint.

The difference in sizes is quite typical of genuine cash coins, especially those produced over such a long time period as the Qian Long coins were. These two were, indeed, made at different times. Dating cash coins is tricky; you need to look for fiddly little diferences in the characters, a task which can sometimes be made harder on coins that are worn or poorly cast.

On the top character on both coins, the bottom right quadrant is shaped like a letter Z; this dates both of these coin to the period prior to 1774. On the coin to the left, the character to the right has a "head" in the upper right quadrant shaped like a backwards C; this indicates it was made in the period 1761-1774. For the coin on the right, that same part of the character to the right is shaped like a sideways F, indicating earlier manufacture (1736-1760).

The smaller coin is therefore the newer of the two, which is what we would expect; cash coins generally get smaller over time.
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