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More Ancients From The Bottom Feeder

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 Posted 11/15/2012  8:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
One of you called me that and it is a badge I'll bear with pride. I won a coin on ebay for $16 but you don't get that because it is going on my almost complete Falling Horseman page. What you get are the other three coins I bought from that same dealer's website. I had never before bought from Victor's Imperial Coins but I see the possibility of dropping by every so often to see what is new. Like many dealers he had several coins I considered overpriced. What was unusual was he had some I considered reasonable and a couple I thought were good deals. Most unusual, I agreed with the relative prices on most coins. The $10 coins were nicer than the $5 coins. The coins over $100 were nicer than the $10 coins. This is not a given situation these days. Reasonable examples of common coins were reasonably priced. What I fail to understand is why some dealers seem to make a living selling $5 coins for $50. Here is what I bought:

Constans 17mm AE3 Galley type FEL TEMP REPARATIO $5
The flips included full RIC identification and texts of the legends as well as weight to .1g and diameter including min-max on the one that was oval. The ID's checked out as correct and my scales agreed with the given weights except that I have been weighing to .01g since I bought my new scales. The flips were the archival models that would not damage the coin. Presentation Grade A (for all). Ordered Sunday, arrived Thursday - Service Grade A.

The coin in the photo was a light green and the online image matched the coin well. The patina is a bit thick obscuring some detail just a bit and the green was chippy around the edge probably accounting for the $5 price rather than $10 which I would have considered fair had the patina been perfectly intact. However the coin weight is only 1.7g and RIC says it should be 2.6g making me wonder if it could be barbarous but the style says the weight is probably due to the strange patina and chipping. Is it a great coin? No! Is it worth $5? It is to me. Value Grade A-.

For the bunch there was $3 postage charge for the group so add a dollar to the given prices for each to get the true price.

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The second coin:
Constantius II Falling Horseman from the middle period with III in reverse field a bit worn but still F+ $5

The worst part of this coin is the mintmark is only half on the small flan but it is readable (BSIS Siscia). The surfaces could be better but what do you expect for a $5 coin? Value grade A.

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Coin 3:

Constantius II Falling Horseman Thessalonica VF $10
Another FH but this has delta in the obverse field making it ever so slightly smaller than the previous one so I'll call it a large AE3 or small AE2. It is somewhat sharper and includes all the TSA mintmark justifying the double price. My photo is not quite as pretty as the coin. It is very common in RIC but nicer than many delta series coins I have seen. Value A- because of the soldier's head being AWOL.
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Here is the point: If you prefer to pay higher prices to a dealer who will tell you how rare his coins are, go right ahead. These are common coins appropriate for beginners and guys like me buying their 120th Falling Horseman. The seller is a specialist interested only in Late Romans. Don't ask if he has a Caligula --- he doesn't. The only possible cheaper coins would be to buy them from each other buying unwanted duplicates. Regular dealers don't have time for $5 sales so they will mark such coins up a bit. Some of us here obviously have time to throw away so $5 coins can sell for $5. Sellers who are also students can have time to kill,too.

http://www.victorsimperialcoins.com...um/index.php



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11/15/2012 8:42 pm
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 Posted 11/15/2012  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add That Canadian Guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are some nice looking ancients.
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 Posted 11/15/2012  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They aren't bad coins, well worth what you paid for them.
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 Posted 11/15/2012  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice enough coins especially at those prices, and thanks for the link from a fellow bottom feeder. I took a quick look and plan to go back for more serious looking later this evening.
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 Posted 11/15/2012  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I feel it would be an honor to be a bottom feeder.You and jw hold that place ...Nice pick up Doug, need to go through the rest of my fallen horseman...
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 Posted 11/15/2012  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i'd buy every one of those, that's the condition of the most of my coins.
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 Posted 11/15/2012  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CGCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, Wish I could find ancients of that condition around here. The only ones in my area I see are priced at 50 bucks no matter what they are, just because they are Ancient. Others are partial coins or chunks of coins.
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 Posted 11/16/2012  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is why most of us buy most of our coins by mail. I prefer coin shows but that is only 3-4 a year for me. Between times I buy from lists online.
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 Posted 11/16/2012  12:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Collecting LRB's is the ancient equivalent of collecting LWC's! Lotsa fun!
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 Posted 11/16/2012  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps. There are millions of them but people who know nothing think they are all alike and people who are into them assign high values on some for some really minor reasons. In the end, I can cash in my cents at McDonalds but the ancients have to be melted.
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