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 Posted 11/19/2012  10:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add focusxl to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this with a few larger coins I had put aside years
ago. Dirt came off pretty easy with a soft brush and very little soaking. It is worn though. This is the best scan I could get. It is about the size of a 50 cent piece,only thicker and heavy for it's size. If I could tell what more of the letters were it would make it easier than trying to find it with only partial inscriptions. I've also noticed, even years ago when a person buys uncleaned and supposedly unresearched coins, most are junk or very common types (constantines, etc.) Any input would be appreciated, Thank you guys in advance.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dionysos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A provincial coin from Serdica probably...

http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=201682
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 Posted 11/19/2012  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

focusxl, Wow, very nice looking coin, still got good detail...
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 Posted 11/19/2012  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add focusxl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, That was fast Dionysos, I would say that is very close, I see a few of the letters on my coin better than the
scan. What does the punch mark in the center mean? And thank you.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add focusxl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Eng5858 Just wish when I cleaned it years ago the patina would have stayed on.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What does the punch mark in the center mean?

See:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/do...ith/pit.html
and much better:
http://www.classicalcoins.com/flans1.html but you must read all 8 pages to get the benefit from this one!



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I've also noticed, even years ago when a person buys uncleaned and supposedly unresearched coins, most are junk or very common types (constantines, etc.)


Two reasons: One you know or you would not have said 'supposedly'. The other is that inflation in the 4th century meant that there were a hundred times as many coins made than in any previous days and the small amounts of precious metal used in them made profit from melting them down less easily realized so more just got buried as they were rather than being reprocessed into more coins as probably happened to many older coins.

Seriously, do you expect people to sell group lots of coins that they could easily sell for twice the price individually? No, the coins in the uncleaned lots are generally coins someone has decided are not worth his time and effort cleaning. If I had 1000 coins and glanced at them quickly, I'd remove things I thought were worth my while even if I did not research every coin. You very rarely will see truly and absolutely unresearched coins. People who do this all the time can sort by feel as fast as you can count. When you buy a lot, you will find some they missed but good examples of special coins tend to stick out like a sore thumb and get cherrypicked.

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I believe that is called a centration dimple. We seem to find them prevalent on provincial coinage.

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 Posted 11/19/2012  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dot in the centre is considered to be a centration dimple from the manufacturing process. The reasons behind it's existance on provincial coins has caused much debate which is unlikely to come to any conclusion any time soon.
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 Posted 11/19/2012  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find.
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Thank you all, and dougsmit you are correct, I did know the answer, thank you and I will read all 8 pages. After all the reading I've been doing since I have resumed my love for Ancient Coins and joined this excellent forum, I believe I'll need glasses soon.
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