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Hi I am numismatic from Slovakia. In one coin depot I found coin from England, type Short Cross, but I dont have any catalogue of England. Please can you help me with. A- Information about coin ( Ruler, Mint . . . .) B- Coin value Thank you very much   |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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IT look like a Henry III coin to me... There are a few variations though and without having the coin in hand to compare the size with the illustrations I cant give a definate catalogue number...
Its Spinks number would be 1356 or 1357 followed by a letter perhaps... maybe someone more familiar with these coins can confirm which...
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New Member
 Czech Republic
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Thank for your answer I found that this coin is
Type short cross
Henry II. 1180 â€" 1189 or
Richard I. 1189 â€" 1199 or
John 1199 â€" 1216 or
Henry III. 1216 â€" 1272
All this coins have sign "HENRICVS", if you know more I will be really pleased
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I am not an expert on this type of coin...I am not even sure how to tell whether it is Canterbury or London mint. The writing is not easy to read I was just judging by the portrait... the later monarchs are without beards I think and the long crosses take over.
If someone could tell us what we should be looking for then maybe we will have a better idea if we ever come across more of these.
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As Stredo says, all of the short cross penny coinage from 1180 to 1272 was kept very standard in design, so standardized that every obverse read HENRICVS REX, even when Richard the Lionhearted or King John were on the throne! Around the bottom of the reverse pic here reads ON WIN; the mint was Winchester. Still trying to make out the moneyers name.
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Edited by philadelphian
11/21/2012 7:06 pm
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New Member
Czech Republic
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Thank you very much.
I find that this is quite rare coin. What is this coin worth in bad condition like my exemplar.
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One example of a King John short cross penny by Lukas of Winchester that I found online was dug from the ground in Italy! Seems that as an island nation, medieval England may have needed to import a great deal of goods, and so there was a flow of this hard currency to the European continent. Unless, of course, there a lot of Friesach denars being found in England!
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Pillar of the Community
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Your coin was probably minted between 1204 and 1210, by the way, which should make it about as old as the other coins it was found with, or a bit older.
Edited by philadelphian
11/22/2012 11:45 am
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New Member
Czech Republic
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Thank you for your answer, can you help me with value of this coin I dont have any catalogue of medieval england.
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United Kingdom
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Hello, if I saw this in my local coin shop in the UK I would expect it to be around the £60-90 range, nice coin!
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That coin for sale on oldcoin.com.au is a close approximation of this one. Here's a quick quiz for everyone, though. While I'm sure it's the same class and subclass, 5b, by the same moneyer, with the same spelling (ON WIN instead of WINC or WINCE), it still has one main difference from Stredo's coin that I keep seeing in other examples. Who can tell me what it is?
Edited by philadelphian
11/23/2012 09:19 am
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New Member
Czech Republic
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I dont know but maybe:
A- my coin is unfortunately damaged with un-nice cut on reverse
B- Portrait have another type of beard, but it is just my guess
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The scratch is unfortunate, but I was thinking of the design. The beard style looks the same to me; a pellet at the chin and parallel whiskers running up the cheeks. The Australian example does have a dot after WIN that this one doesn't, but what I'm talking about is on the obverse...
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Posted 11/21/2012 06:45 am
