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Help Identify Two Coins I Bought Today

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 Posted 11/28/2012  12:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Okay, I just wanted to write a long detailed description, and accidentally deleted it while trying to copy (and couldn't find an Undo button... you really need to add one). So this will be short (this smiley exactly describes what I just did when I realized I deleted the post, except that the wall probably wasn't actually made of bricks).
So this will be reasonably short (if I missed any details, please ask).
Oh, and yes, I've bought them because they looked old... it was too dark to see them properly when I made the purchase, and I only realized how awfully badly preserved they are when I got home and looked at them under some decent light. Yes, I know I probably did that completely wrong

Coin #1. Side one: digits "49" near the edge (probably date or part of it); legend before them says <...>OL[ER?]TIA.VINCIT; some kind of design in the middle, with a square right over the center pointing a corner to the 49. Side two: nothing that I can see.
Coin #2. Side one: crowned letter W taking up most of the diameter in the middle, and what looks like digits "18" to the left of it. Side two: some vertical design, possibly a crowned coat of arms (but the arms, if any, are gone - only the vague shape is still there), and what looks a little like the letter O to what would've been the right of it if it's really a crowned coat of arms (which would give the coin the so-called "coin" alignment).
Oh, almost forgot: they're 21mm and 22mm respectively.

Question: what these coins actually are (if it can be told with any degree of certainty), and would they be worth anywhere near the $2.5 combined I paid for them?
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 Posted 11/28/2012  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post a picture of each?
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 Posted 11/28/2012  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No pics, sorry (the only camera here is the webcam supposed to be used for video chatting, which I doubt would pick up these coins as anything more than colored disks, and I don't really know how to use it anyway).
That seems to have been something left over in the rewritten version of the post (I did say that I can't give any pics in the original version, but seems I forgot that phrase in the rewrite).
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 Posted 11/28/2012  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shot in the dark, but the crowned "W" sounds like a Netherland piece under Willem I.
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 Posted 11/28/2012  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Shot in the dark, but the crowned "W" sounds like a Netherland piece under Willem I.


That's exactly what it is thank you! 1 cent Willem I, 1817-1837: http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces6540.html
How unlucky that the date is unreadable (though it looks a little bit kind of like 1826 so I'll mentally consider it that).
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 Posted 11/29/2012  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, quite a bit of googling today found the other coin... Wied-Neuwied (German state), 1/4 Stueber 1749. Fun fact: the only links I found that mentioned the legend were an 1892 catalogue that mislabeled the coin as a "penning" of "Wied", and this Dutch discussion (though later, while writing this post, I also found this).
Anyway... well, that's cool. Also, my first pre-Confederation German state coin (all the previous German state coins I had were from the 1815-1866 German Confederation period).
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