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Prison-Coin #15 => 15th Of 15 Coins (Seljuqs Of Rum)

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Prison-Coin #15 => 15th of 15 coins (Seljuqs of Rum)

A few months back, dougsmit showed a similar coin and I knew then that it was only a matter of time before I was gonna pounce on one of these babies!!


Seljuqs of Rum, Kaykhusraw II
Silver Dirham

Konya Mint
1241-1242 A.D. (AH639)
Diameter: 23 mm
Weight: 2.9 grams
Obverse: Sun and Lion
Reverse: ?
Other: A-1218 ... SLJQ-503

Prison-Coin-#15-=>-15th-Of-15-Coins-Seljuqs-Of-Rum
Prison-Coin-#15-=>-15th-Of-15-Coins-Seljuqs-Of-Rum


=> I really don't know anything about this final prison-coin, "yet" ...

=> so if dougsmit or anybody else knows anything that can shed some light onto this/these coins, then please chip-in with some comments (thanks gang)
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Beautiful coin Jerry, I've only seen a few of these and know nothing about them. I've enjoyed seeing all of your new coins. Glad to have you bad.
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I love animal coins

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Ok I was looking for this! Where did you get it?
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The mediaeval Turkic sultanates are rather unusual for early Islamic coins, in depicting images of people and animals. Previous (and many subsequent) Islamic dynasties had interpreted the "no graven images" directive to include pictures on coins. But the Turkic dynasties apparently believed that, since coins were "struck" and not "graven", pictures on coins were OK. Coin dies, however, would be "graven images", so they employed non-Muslim artisans to actually engrave the dies.

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Obverse: Sun and Lion

Don't forget the three stars. They're a small but important part of the design. Many of the designs on the "pictorial" coins are astrological in origin. What you have on this coin is in effect a royal horoscope: "The Sun in Leo".

My favourite astrological/astronomical depiction on coinage is of a solar eclipse in the constellation Sagittarius, which occurred in the second year of reign of Artuq Arslan, Artuqid ruler of Mardin (AD 1201); those coins depict a centaur-archer shooting his arrow at a dragon attached to his tail.
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Sap => very cool info ... thank you very much for starting me off in the correct direction (I will continue to dig deeper into this beauty)



=> hey, I'm a Leo (August, 9th b-day)





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that is just stunning stevex, what a great coin! neer seen anything quite like it really.
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As I recall this coin honored the king's exceptionally beautiful wife who was a Christian. Later she converted and his coins became all legends. I can't remember where I got that idea but you can research it and see what you find. I also recall there was discussion on the meaning of the lion/sun but have no time now for deep research. Sorry.
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Wow...that's an interesting coin! Both the images and script are great!
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