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This coin has some weird wear I think. What is it's grade?


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It might have been softly stuck or had a thin planchet in the area around the date/lower obverse rim. The reverse looks close to VF, F15 for sure. The obverse would probably go VG10 or F12.

Overall, I'd assign an F12 grade.
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I'd love to see it out of the window of the mylar...that would allow some more insight to be given...I'm not sure if that's genuine oxidization or an attempt to put it there
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I'll post it later outside the 2x2. It is currently in a flip so I can take it out easy.
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Fine 12 details.....cleaned
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F-12 looks about right but the surfaces seem a bit light.
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Fine 12 details.....cleaned


I can't tell you for certain if this coin has been cleaned or not since many old coins like this have been. I do know though many people use attributes about a coin that are present on both uncleaned and cleaned coins like the present of dirt in crevices which can come off carrying it in your pocket. Unless it is obvious, like systematic scratch marks on coins that have been tooled or coins with no toning nor luster. I have heard cleaning detection is one of the hardest things in coin collecting. The coin below flat out looks cleaned to me where the one I posted, I know nobody intentionally made this coin this color since it isn't the most attractive color.



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there are certainly old cleanings versus new ones...without question, on a lot of 19th century coinage, you will have had someone wipe it with something 100 years ago and then some, those are the more difficult to get a feel on unless you use high end magnification coupled with enough experience to detect an old cleaning...

you can tell newer cleanings with more modern techniques pretty quickly when you have seen enough examples, especially chemical and abrasive cleanings...i still want to see your 1854 out of the Mylar window for a better look at the surface...
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