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 Posted 01/03/2013  10:48 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ron_CA to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
When you make offers on listings with best offer option, are you bound by that offer? Let's say I make 3 offers on the same type of coin and 3 days later the Seller of all 3 say yes, do I have to buy them? Am I better off making offers on one type of a coin at a time?

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 Posted 01/03/2013  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, you are not obligated to your offer(s), however it would be in bad taste if you crawfished.

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I have only bought 3 times on ebay and have never made a best offer. When you make the offer can you put a time limit on it? What if there are 15 days left in the auction and the seller waits 2 weeks to contact you? I have no problem buying what I offer on, but it seems like if they don't accept in a couple of days then it is back in the sellers court and if they finally choose to accept your offer after a long time, then no harm no foul if you decline.
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 Posted 01/03/2013  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A Best Offer is only valid for a specific timeframe, per ebay rule; I think it's 48 hours but might be 72. After that everybody's off the hook.
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The offers that I have made, I received a message stating that the seller has "X" (I believe it was three) number of days (hours) to accept of decline the offer.

There is also a feature that I just learned about that the seller can reject an offer that is below a determined minimum amount.
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Thanks Dave! That's what I needed to know

Thanks oih82w8
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 Posted 01/04/2013  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty sure that you can attach "conditions" to your offer which, of course, the seller is free to decline but which, by virtue of you having stated them, protects you from potential problems. If you've got "other fish to fry" and you don't want to wait 48 hours for the seller to accept or decline your offer (and, to be sure, many sellers will do NEITHER, opting to simply let your offer expire...which costs you 48 hours of unproductive uncertainty) you can state that your offer is only good for 12 hours, 24 hours, etc. The safest way to handle THAT scenario is to spell it out to the seller in terms of ebay (Pacific Standard) time, such as "My offer expires 01/05/13 at noon, Pacific Standard Time."
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They should add a feature that lets you specify if you want your offer to be valid for 1 day or two, I have noticed a lot of times sellers dont respond to offers at all. A simple decline would be nice so you can move on to others
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Ok, Now I see how it works. Just won a best offer, here's what I did.

Found a coin I needed for my 7070 that I thought was priced well at BIN. Offered approx 20% below BIN price, was countered approx 6% below. I countered the counter offer at around 15% below the BIN price and the seller accepted

I will know how I really did once I have the coin in hand.
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hmmm, I'll have to look up the rules. I "thought" that by you making an offer, if the seller accepted, it's the same as doing a BIN, and you are responsible for payment..

Good job on getting the coin you wanted by the way. Post up some pics when you get it in hand.
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You are bound to the offer for 48 hours. I'm not sure that it is okay to state "exceptions" like "I am only honoring this offer for 12 hours" as that is counter to the rules that ebay set up.

Unless you are willing to buy all 3 if your offers are accepted, then you should ethically only offer one at a time until the 48 hours is up on each and then move on.

Some sellers respond quickly, others slowly or just let offers they don't "like" expire. It may not be the best customer service to do it that way, but I guess some of the higher volume sellers can't be bothered with lower offers than piques their interest.

There are circumstances for which you can cancel offers before the 48 hours is up. But "offer regret" or having bought another in the meantime is not one of the acceptable reasons. I know many don't seem to care about rules and ethics, but I think it ruins the whole process when some abuse it. I don't think sellers should be listing items multiple places and "taking down" listings early ( legit or not ). So I also don't think buyers should be reneging on offers for bogus reasons either. I have thunder-thumbed a couple offers but caught them in seconds. I don't think claiming type-os many hours later should be allowed.

I'd prefer 12 or 24 hours, but I don't make the rules so I know when I enter an offer I am bound to it for 48 hours and live with that!
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Ok, Now I see how it works. Just won a best offer, here's what I did.

Found a coin I needed for my 7070 that I thought was priced well at BIN. Offered approx 20% below BIN price, was countered approx 6% below. I countered the counter offer at around 15% below the BIN price and the seller accepted


That's a typical scenario. Most BIN/BO sellers have a minimum price in mind when they list that is obviously less than the BIN ( or they wouldn't bother listing with BO option ). That said, some will auto-reject anything below 95% or 98% of their BIN which kind of defeats the purpose. Most know that buyers expect a 10% or more lower than BIN price when they make BO's and thus price to that model somewhat. When you list auction with a BIN that BIN MUST BE 10% above the auction start price at least so that gives you an indication of where people get some rules-of-thumb for such things from.

It is so dependent on how reasonable their BIN price is compared to market-price ( however one decides to evaluate that ) and how desparate they are to unload that coin. I've had sellers accept as little as 30% of BIN - because they inflated it ridiculously to start, and like I said I've seen others that auto-reject anything but 99% ( which is a waste of time for all concerned as they shouldn't bother with BO in that case ).

Wholesale is typically around 75%-85% of list price so if they are offering a coin at BIN of list your target should be 15%-25% less - unless you want to pay more which strangely is not that uncommon.

But that varies by how desirable the particular coin is etc. Knowing the "fees" are approx. 10-13% is also a factor in that some will not accept less than list because that already means they actually get paid only 88% of list or so.

It's obviously a personal style thing, but my first BO offer is typically somewhere in the 60%-80% of what I determine to be market value - regardless and irrespective of what their BIN price is. The more reasonable their BIN, and obviously desirable that particular coin is to me at the time, the closer to 80% my offer is. I expect some back-and-forth haggling of at least a couple offers before we meet on a price, as why list BO if that isn't in the cards. Yet some will do just that - list BO but then not want to engage in any haggling. IMO, that is just bizzare.

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BR thanks for your insight. Makes total sense
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I couldnt agree more Buffalo, there is no point of a BO if you will only take 98 or 99 percent of the price, just list it for that and save everyone the time. I understand not taking 800 or 85 percent but the other is a little extreme. Ill do exactly what you said every now and then with the over price a bit give the BO option and just wait for someone to make the fair offer. Sometimes it will get extra attention since people feel theyre saving money especially for harder to sell items.

I would agree with the sentiment expressed too that offers should only be made if you plan to buy. If you have a pending one and want to make another a better option may be to email the other seller and see if they would accept your offer and let them know that you have to wait to see what happens with the first one. Some sellers wont care others will appreciate the honesty.
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 Posted 01/20/2013  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ron_CA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I got auto rejected last night on a couple best offers. Oh well, they really were over priced IMO
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