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 Western Han - 半. Pan Liang cash coin - 23mm - 2nd-1st century BC. Pan Liang or Ban Liang Chinese coins are particularly difficult to attribute to a particular time or emperor. Based on what I have read, many of them are attributed by weight, by diameter and those with rims or without rims. These coins are also cast. Pan Liang coins were first minted by the Qin Dynasty. The larger the coins are, the older they are. According to the seller's attribution, this particular coin is 23mm but no weight. Once I receive the coin, I will find out on my digital scale. And so these coins were minted all through the Western Han dynasty as well.
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Interesting coin! The style much different than those I have--from 1000+ years later. The hole is also proportinally larger.
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another cool coin GG.  I've been thinking about dipping my toe in the chiese waters for some time, but I'm just clueless about them. is anyone here hardcore into chinese coins? |
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Interesting coin. Some cool reading..check out Sino- Romano relations. What you read might interest you. The Emperor Antonius Pius is said to have sent emmesarries to China. The Chinese also sent emissaries but made it only as far as Parthia before being told to turn back, because the journey was dangerous and would take another 2 years.
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Nice coins from an interesting period of Chinese history. The Western Han Dynasty (206 BC - 24 AD) was a period of peace and prosperity and at that time a world power with interests in literature, the arts and technology. In my modest collection I have two 4 zhu ban liang coins almost identical to the one shown by GG. They each measure 23mm and weigh approx 2.6gr. I would encourage anyone to consider collecting Imperial Chinese coins. Although the designs might not be as artistic as the Roman and Greek 'ancients' the stories behind the coins and dynasty's can be fascinating. There are reputable dealers out there who do provide honest and reliable service and who have been in business for very many years. You just have do do your homework. Similarly, there are websites which will give valuable information show you examples of coins from all dynasty's. For example:- http://chinesecoins.lyq.dk/ and http://primaltrek.com/chinesecoins.html |
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The first really old Chinese coin I've seen on here Always wanted to know more about them, are they expensive? |
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thanks for those aiglet!  |
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If you buy carefully, the cost of collecting ancient Chinese, Annam, Korean or Japanese is not that expensive. I think the most that I have paid for a single coin is $10.00 and that is the one I posted on this forum a few weeks ago:- https://goccf.com/t/135149The two Ban Liang coins similar to those illustrated in this topic cost me $2.- each. I buy from established dealers in Hong Kong, Singapore, China and also Canada. The most expensive part of the transaction is usually the registered mail. |
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Very nice coin. Yours appears to be from the later part of the era, it is more rounder and the casting is much better than the earlier ones of circa 206 BC. There are minor changes in the style of the coin to help date then. Here is one of mine from circa 206 BC.   The casting is crude and if you look closely you can see the minor differences in the coins style. |
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Thanks for the info - going to see if I can pick a few of the older ones up. I'm guessing ebay could be a nightmare for fakes with these, I think treading very carefully is required. |
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Thanks for the information, aiglet7. I actually ran into one of those sites you posted before and learned a little from it. I also learned quite a bit from this site. http://www.calgarycoin.com/referenc...na/china.htmechizento: Yes, your coin is older because it also has casting sprues. I have a couple more coins to post today. I'm about to post another soon. This one is the oldest coin. |
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 The above image is from my Coin Vocabulary page that covers Asian coins. I know little about them having just picked up a few mostly from the back sections of Frank Robinson's lists. I bought the small one in the upper left corner because he listed it as the earliest cheap round cash (3rd century BC). It reads Yi Tao 'one knife' and resembles the handle of the earlier cast bronze knife coins (which I don't have, can't afford and would not know a rake from a real one). I did buy and recommend the book Cast Chinese Coins by David Hartill. |
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Nice coins. I have another one to post that is on this photo.
I'm not too interested in the knife coins as I cannot afford them either and if I did have that much cash on me, I'd probably get a Roman coin.
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Nice, still waiting for mine to arrive then I'll post. Something I've noticed is often with these (cash in general) the older coins don't look 'old' if you know what I mean, yours does, I like it |
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