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Kingdom Of The Ostrogoths-Theodoric

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These are the sellers photos. I did order these coins internationally so I am sure I will not have them in hand or at least a week or two.

Theodoric the Great King of the Ostrogoths (471â€"526),
ruler of Italy (493â€"526),
regent of the Visigoths (511â€"526)
AE Unit Rome Mint. 493-518 or 526 AD
10mm x 1.35 grams.
Obv. Bust right, completely degraded issue
Rev. Victory advancing left dragging captive, chi-rhoin the left field,
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Wow - how can you even tell it from its roman counterparts? I've been looking fot sn ostrogoth coin, seems like the best bet is to spot one amongst romans
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Very nice, you are finding some really interesting and nice coins.
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Anyone know of any good reference sites for these coins
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Nice pickup Anoob


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Anyone know of any good reference sites for these coins
Wildwinds's Byzantine Imitatives page has a number of them listed. Also Coinproject.com has a few pages devoted to Ostrogoth, Vandal, and other Germanic coinage, with pictures and references. And Helveticas has a Byzantine excel spreadsheet that includes some Germanic as well.
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Wow!

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Thanks jango, off to do some reading
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Thanks jango, off to do some reading
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Now I have to go do some reading on this one. I'm definitely getting a history lesson hanging around you guys. Great coin.
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No problem Oh and here is the link for the excel sheet. Just scroll down to where it says "Byzantine coins, others" and click it.

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that's very cool, looks pretty similar to some of those small aracdius or theodosius coins...very nice!
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I am soo feeling the love of these coins!
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So does anyone have any ideas on further attribution, reference maybe?
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Very nice coin! I don't have a clue what attribution this coin could be.


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Wow - how can you even tell it from its roman counterparts? I've been looking fot sn ostrogoth coin, seems like the best bet is to spot one amongst romans


Sometimes you can't tell as the quality was really bad even for official issues. Sometimes you can tell by the engraving style.
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I have seen coins offered as Barbaric issues. Which I suppose is correct. As the invaders of the Roman empire where just that. A couple of times I have seen these coins sold that say, for example, " struck for Anastasius" or something to that effect. Knowing next to nothing in the great scheme of numismatics, I would assume that the coin was minted by one authority under another authority. From what I have read and what is generally known about the 5th - 6th century living in the former Roman Empire, if it looked like a coin and it looked Roman it was a coin good in the Roman empire. Right? With silver in short supply and rising cost of living, copper need hit an all time high. Producing these very nice works of art of late antiquity. I doubt they would look any better if they were official Roman issues or unofficial Romans struck by Goths, needing to use them, with Romans willing to accept them. An interesting turn of events?
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So does anyone have any ideas on further attribution, reference maybe?
Try the excel sheet for Victory with captive (Salvs Reipvblicae link) in the link I provided. Pretty good chance of coming up with an attribution there.
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